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4. ⚠️People should know that the income tax on SS benefits GOES INTO THE SS SYSTEM, not into the general
Thu Aug 1, 2024, 05:54 AM
Aug 2024

fund. So eliminating this will cut Social Security's revenue stream. And it's a progressive tax -- 52% of SS beneficiaries don't meet the income threshold and so don't pay any income tax on their benefits. The other 48% pay according to a progressive schedule based on income and SS benefit amount. So that's why Felonious Maximus wants to cut it.

This is not a linkless assertion of opinion as fact, as is a little all too common. Here is the link:

https://www.ssa.gov/policy/trust-funds-summary.html

In 2022, an estimated 48 percent of beneficiaries paid income taxes on part of their benefits. Receipts from these taxes go to the OASDI Trust Funds and Medicare's Hospital Insurance Trust Fund. In 2023, income to the combined OASDI trust funds from the taxation of benefits amounted to $51 billion.

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Edited to Add 8/1 730 AM ET

I'm glad that the OP's linked article also makes this point (plus a little bit on the SS benefits taxation thresholds):

Currently about 40 percent of seniors who receive Social Security have to pay taxes on the benefit, according to the Social Security Administration. Beneficiaries earning less than $25,000 don’t have to pay the tax; above that threshold, up to 50 percent of income is subject to the tax, and starting at $34,000, up to 85 percent is taxed.

The revenue generated by taxing benefits is used to shore up the Social Security and Medicare trust funds, which are currently dwindling. The Social Security trust fund, if combined with the program’s Disability Insurance Trust Fund, could pay out the full retirement benefit until 2035. At that point, benefits would face a 17 percent cut, according to the annual trustees report.

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Turning upside down TSF's proposal of no SS taxes: no_hypocrisy Aug 2024 #1
Has the Wolf finnally come? i am 76 and have heard every election cycle in doc03 Aug 2024 #44
even if . . Sailingdiver Aug 2024 #2
Biden should co-opt that concept and balance it with truthisfreedom Aug 2024 #3
⚠️People should know that the income tax on SS benefits GOES INTO THE SS SYSTEM, not into the general progree Aug 2024 #4
Social Security shouldn't be taxed. Happy Hoosier Aug 2024 #13
I agree and raise the cap to pay for it. The threshold for tax was set in 1983 at $25000 for a doc03 Aug 2024 #30
Brainchild of Ronald Reagan and Tip O'Neill Jk23 Aug 2024 #41
It was in the Reagan Administration he owns it. Just like NAFTA, it was a GHWB doc03 Aug 2024 #43
Maybe adjust it for inflation since Reagan started it back in the stone age. twodogsbarking Aug 2024 #5
2 days shy of 89 years ago Blue Dotty Aug 2024 #32
Reagan taxed it along with my patience. twodogsbarking Aug 2024 #34
Sure, Orange Pantload, Sure . . . . hatrack Aug 2024 #6
more words that mean nothing. Javaman Aug 2024 #7
He must think seniors are really dumb to think that... ananda Aug 2024 #8
Don't beleive him, the real plan is to steal all of your S.S.. Then go after your pension. Just to start with. nt Hotler Aug 2024 #9
Spot on. All the con promises are lies to get votes. onetexan Aug 2024 #16
Which will last until they eliminate Social Security altogether. Groovy, man. n/t TygrBright Aug 2024 #10
I would have to agree with the concept although his overall plan would likely gut other aspects of social security. honest.abe Aug 2024 #11
I don't believe I pay any income tax on my SS. Neither do my friends. JohnnyRingo Aug 2024 #12
Since I get a federal annuity (now with an offset) + SS having started this year for me for the first time BumRushDaShow Aug 2024 #14
Minnesota got rid of taxes on SS a couple years ago -- I was SHOCKED when I saw how low my MN taxes were progree Aug 2024 #17
I also get a pension over $1,300 a month. JohnnyRingo Aug 2024 #20
I receive pension of $1900 a month for working 40 years in a steel doc03 Aug 2024 #31
I make around $30k and HR Block figures no federal tax. State keeps what they deduct, JohnnyRingo Aug 2024 #33
I think up to 25,000 is not taxed for individual. honest.abe Aug 2024 #19
My wife and I do in some years DavidDvorkin Aug 2024 #26
Didn't that fucker rayguns start taxing those benefits? wolfie001 Aug 2024 #15
Makes sense. There would be no income to tax after Project 2025's elimination of Social Security. PSPS Aug 2024 #18
Bulls**t! If the one-per-centers hadn't gotten that ridiculous tax break in 2018 FakeNoose Aug 2024 #21
Trump does not even deserve lip service...remember all the promises he hinted but never kept.. NowsTheTime Aug 2024 #22
+1 oasis Aug 2024 #23
STEAL THIS IDEA. Tax milionaires, instead The Mouth Aug 2024 #24
"We" didn't wait BumRushDaShow Aug 2024 #36
Thank you The Mouth Aug 2024 #37
I hope that if we can get the House back BumRushDaShow Aug 2024 #38
VP Harris should be shouting this from the rooftops. The Mouth Aug 2024 #42
We shouldn't have waited for Trump to say this DavidDvorkin Aug 2024 #25
Believe the convicted felon and his republican base are against Social Security benefits. republianmushroom Aug 2024 #27
Still waiting for your health plan, liar. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #28
The country's bills have to be paid with tax revenue bucolic_frolic Aug 2024 #29
So it's either take it away completely, or not tax it? Conjuay Aug 2024 #35
Its a good idea that should be co-opted by Harris andym Aug 2024 #39
I think this is a good idea mysuzuki2 Aug 2024 #40
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