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In reply to the discussion: Trump pitches repealing tax on Social Security benefits [View all]progree
(11,494 posts)4. ⚠️People should know that the income tax on SS benefits GOES INTO THE SS SYSTEM, not into the general
fund. So eliminating this will cut Social Security's revenue stream. And it's a progressive tax -- 52% of SS beneficiaries don't meet the income threshold and so don't pay any income tax on their benefits. The other 48% pay according to a progressive schedule based on income and SS benefit amount. So that's why Felonious Maximus wants to cut it.
This is not a linkless assertion of opinion as fact, as is a little all too common. Here is the link:
https://www.ssa.gov/policy/trust-funds-summary.html
In 2022, an estimated 48 percent of beneficiaries paid income taxes on part of their benefits. Receipts from these taxes go to the OASDI Trust Funds and Medicare's Hospital Insurance Trust Fund. In 2023, income to the combined OASDI trust funds from the taxation of benefits amounted to $51 billion.
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Edited to Add 8/1 730 AM ET
I'm glad that the OP's linked article also makes this point (plus a little bit on the SS benefits taxation thresholds):
Currently about 40 percent of seniors who receive Social Security have to pay taxes on the benefit, according to the Social Security Administration. Beneficiaries earning less than $25,000 dont have to pay the tax; above that threshold, up to 50 percent of income is subject to the tax, and starting at $34,000, up to 85 percent is taxed.
The revenue generated by taxing benefits is used to shore up the Social Security and Medicare trust funds, which are currently dwindling. The Social Security trust fund, if combined with the programs Disability Insurance Trust Fund, could pay out the full retirement benefit until 2035. At that point, benefits would face a 17 percent cut, according to the annual trustees report.
The revenue generated by taxing benefits is used to shore up the Social Security and Medicare trust funds, which are currently dwindling. The Social Security trust fund, if combined with the programs Disability Insurance Trust Fund, could pay out the full retirement benefit until 2035. At that point, benefits would face a 17 percent cut, according to the annual trustees report.
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⚠️People should know that the income tax on SS benefits GOES INTO THE SS SYSTEM, not into the general
progree
Aug 2024
#4
I agree and raise the cap to pay for it. The threshold for tax was set in 1983 at $25000 for a
doc03
Aug 2024
#30
Maybe adjust it for inflation since Reagan started it back in the stone age.
twodogsbarking
Aug 2024
#5
Don't beleive him, the real plan is to steal all of your S.S.. Then go after your pension. Just to start with. nt
Hotler
Aug 2024
#9
Which will last until they eliminate Social Security altogether. Groovy, man. n/t
TygrBright
Aug 2024
#10
I would have to agree with the concept although his overall plan would likely gut other aspects of social security.
honest.abe
Aug 2024
#11
Since I get a federal annuity (now with an offset) + SS having started this year for me for the first time
BumRushDaShow
Aug 2024
#14
Minnesota got rid of taxes on SS a couple years ago -- I was SHOCKED when I saw how low my MN taxes were
progree
Aug 2024
#17
I make around $30k and HR Block figures no federal tax. State keeps what they deduct,
JohnnyRingo
Aug 2024
#33
Makes sense. There would be no income to tax after Project 2025's elimination of Social Security.
PSPS
Aug 2024
#18
Bulls**t! If the one-per-centers hadn't gotten that ridiculous tax break in 2018
FakeNoose
Aug 2024
#21
Trump does not even deserve lip service...remember all the promises he hinted but never kept..
NowsTheTime
Aug 2024
#22
Believe the convicted felon and his republican base are against Social Security benefits.
republianmushroom
Aug 2024
#27