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AZJonnie

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3. It's along the lines but none of Epstein's victims (the known ones anyway) were only 13
Sat Nov 1, 2025, 02:04 PM
Nov 2025

Also I don't think any of them claimed they were physically confined against their will either. Carolyn Andriano, the girl that Maxwell was convicted of trafficking to Epstein, testified she went to Epstein's estate "probably 100 times over the span of years", via "appointment", and of her own accord. She also said that after the "introductory" period "something sexual happened every time", and she was paid $300 per visit, "more if I brought friends"

I'm not minimizing what they did, but this particular PA case is *significantly* more extreme (except in extent i.e. victim count). In my estimation, any sex a person perceives that that they said "yes" too in the moment, for whatever reason, is inherently less traumatic that sex you were screaming "STOP!!!! NO!!!!" to, especially if you are ALSO kidnapped, OMFG that is absolutely terrifying to ponder

But that may just be my own estimation

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Sounds like the kind of thing Epstein and Maxwell did. sop Nov 2025 #1
It's absolutely abhorent. And now you don't have to go to beauty pagents - just post on social media. erronis Nov 2025 #2
Sadly, there is nothing at all new about pedophiles using social media to meet and groom potential victims. ☹️ ShazzieB Nov 2025 #10
It's along the lines but none of Epstein's victims (the known ones anyway) were only 13 AZJonnie Nov 2025 #3
Epstein and Maxwell used psychological manipulation rather than physical imprisonment to get what they wanted. ShazzieB Nov 2025 #7
Epstein didn't use basement cages, though his victims were "as young as 11," and he "held them captive" on his island. sop Nov 2025 #8
I really shouldn't put myself in a position of sounding like I'm defending those assholes, because it's not my intent AZJonnie Nov 2025 #17
he had them on an island Skittles Nov 2025 #18
I strongly suggest that you read Virginia Giuffre's memoir, "Nobody's Girl". niyad Nov 2025 #9
The world would be a better place had Epstein and Maxwell PufPuf23 Nov 2025 #12
"Missing Louisiana girl, 13" raises all sorts of red flags... ultralite001 Nov 2025 #4
The numbers don't exist. Just like the girls never existed. Ephemeral crimes that rich peope get away with. erronis Nov 2025 #5
💔💔💔 ultralite001 Nov 2025 #6
Did Trump pardon him yet? watertiger Nov 2025 #11
They are getting the office ready for him in the Bureau of Prisons - he has OTJ training already! erronis Nov 2025 #15
This is another reason social media must be made public utilities Warpy Nov 2025 #13
Social media must be regulated. In many ways it's become as toxic and destructive as drugs, or guns. sop Nov 2025 #14
Omg! They found the girl in a box!! But am glad she was found. riversedge Nov 2025 #16
Well, if the head hump of the Faux pas Nov 2025 #19
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