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Bluetus

(2,958 posts)
13. Democrats should declare an impasse and refuse any further negotiations until
Sat Nov 8, 2025, 09:01 PM
Nov 2025

the House comes back to work.

We can easily win the optics of that position. And as a result, Adelita Grijalva will be seated and we can get the bill requiring the DoJ to publish the Epstein files. And that puts Trump in a box because then it will be possible to link the government shutdown with the Epstein files, to get a twofer any time the media asks why the shutdown is still happening.

Our position would be, simply:

Republicans had 10 months to negotiate an acceptable budget. Democrats stood ready to negotiate every single day this year, but the Republicans never had a single meeting, not a single discussion, not even a single email or PowerPoint slide with the Democrats to seek common ground. Instead they met in secret and rammed through their own bill, then they left town and have never come back to work since September.

That bill they rammed through the House eliminates all funding for ACA health care premium support needed by 22 million Americans. The Democrats in the Senate could not accept this. The House Republicans are AWOL, because if they come back, then they must seat Democrat Adelita Grijalva who was elected to the House months ago. And as soon as that happens, there will be a discharge petition that will force the DoJ to release the full Epstein files.

So, as a matter of fact, this shutdown continues because Trump is fighting like hell to keep those files from coming out.

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Complete dickwads UpInArms Nov 2025 #1
They are unserious and inept. C_U_L8R Nov 2025 #2
Sue yourselves in Federal Court and then ignore the court's ruling bucolic_frolic Nov 2025 #3
Democrats should declare an impasse and refuse any further negotiations until Bluetus Nov 2025 #13
There has BEEN no real negotiation, except by lessor Senators who aren't in Leadership--- Jack Valentino Nov 2025 #16
Good point, so maybe Dems should phrase it differently Bluetus Nov 2025 #17
Yeah, quite true.... but Johnson and the House GQP (not subject to 'work requirements', Jack Valentino Nov 2025 #19
Maybe 100 Republicans on the discharge petition Bluetus Nov 2025 #20
Not the Yahoo version, but in general, YES... from other sources. Jack Valentino Nov 2025 #21
And THAT may be more the reason for staying out of town Bluetus Nov 2025 #22
Easy! Just release the Epstein files, and things will work out from there. usonian Nov 2025 #4
But the House is still on paid extended vacation.................. Lovie777 Nov 2025 #5
Well they have "concepts" of how to govern. Fil1957 Nov 2025 #6
Pinocchio "I'll be a real boy one day" Johnson, John Boy Thune, and the Wizard of Ooze are... Ol Janx Spirit Nov 2025 #7
Go ahead and raid the blue states and watch what happens when the Democrats come into power. cstanleytech Nov 2025 #8
They should take the Democratic offer. It's completely reasonable. Fund healthcare for a year and during that time Vinca Nov 2025 #9
"They've been talking about replacing Obamacare since 2016 and have done nothing" BumRushDaShow Nov 2025 #10
By the way - CONGRATS on your DUversary! BumRushDaShow Nov 2025 #11
Thanks! I didn't see that. Wow - 21 years. I was a refugee from the John Kerry site and DU took me in. Vinca Nov 2025 #12
They might be scrambling all right... ananda Nov 2025 #14
The Schumer compromise proposal to continue Obamacare subsidies for a year Jack Valentino Nov 2025 #15
Thune doesn't know what he's doing and Schumer is taking advantage of it. Xolodno Nov 2025 #18
Find ideas to open the government? Just open it you lying freaks. travelingthrulife Nov 2025 #23
"...encourage the Trump administration to raid federally funded projects in Democratic states..." OldBaldy1701E Nov 2025 #24
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