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42. Rose is much worse IMHO.

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 04:59 PM

Jan 2013

What Rose did cuts to the heart of the game and anybody's ability to believe in it. By betting while managing, he could directly manipulate the outcome. He might swing it one way or the other without even realizing it.
I am no fan of steroid users. However, they still have to have a modicum of talent to hit the ball. In addition, the outcome they can consistently produce is not guaranteed.
Rose couldn't guarantee an outcome, but with the ability to move and/ or remove players, he could really affect it.

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There's evidence he bet for is team, not against it. jeff47 Jan 2013 #41

Wow---you guys just don't get it. trumad Jan 2013 #48

No, I'm not saying that at all jeff47 Jan 2013 #55

How do you know he didn't bet against his team? trumad Jan 2013 #59

Same reason I know he hasn't murdered anyone jeff47 Jan 2013 #61

And no has produced any evidence that he hasn't. trumad Jan 2013 #62

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I'm stunned that some don't get it. trumad Jan 2013 #50

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