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niyad

(131,925 posts)
15. Before I start screaming about the self-righteous sanctimony and
Thu Mar 12, 2026, 05:48 PM
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virtue signalling that seems to surround every discussion about "healthy eating" and "junk food restrictions", wherever they occur, I would like people to keep in mind one little fact. Many people live in the "food deserts", meaning there are no grocery stores within ten miles. The ONLY access to any kind of food in those areas is convenience stores, with their limited choices. And before I hear anything about "just get on a bus", as one pontificator snarled at me several years ago in a meeting, many of those same areas do not have decent public transit, either. And, even if there is, hauling bags of groceries on and off buses, particularly if one has to transfer, or has mobility isssues, is not a picnic.

When one defends all these restrictions, whatever one's stated reason, one must ask oneself why it is okay to tell these people what they may, or may not, purchase with OUR money. Does one tell the military how to spend the trillions they get? Does one restrict the oil companies? Big AG? Big Pharma? And then think about what those answers say about oneself.

Sugar may not be the main problem bucolic_frolic Thursday #1
see post 15 niyad Thursday #20
Just give them the fucking money. They spend more money "discussing" it than it costs. twodogsbarking Thursday #2
It is, and always has been, about control, shaming, and, to a great degree, misogyny, niyad Thursday #11
That is what emotion Ai is for! jfz9580m Friday #53
the money spent investigating and verifying "means tests" rampartd Saturday #101
My sympathies would revolve around a better understanding of "access food", "manage health conditions" and...... FadedMullet Thursday #3
Do we get a say in what type of food the military is served? choie Thursday #5
That's exactly why orangecrush Saturday #116
These rules would prevent a family from using SNAP to buy a birthday cake for their kids. SunSeeker Thursday #9
see post 15 niyad Thursday #19
Sure Cirsium Saturday #107
I don't know... Jacson6 Thursday #4
See post 15 niyad Thursday #21
I'll pay attention to the counter-arguments when healthy food Torchlight Thursday #6
You nailed it "when healthy food is as affordable as many junk foods" quaint Thursday #7
THANK YOU!!! niyad Thursday #18
In what world would high-quality anything be as affordable as junk? Oliver Bolliver Butt Thursday #28
A sane one? niyad Thursday #38
define 'junk' then Oliver Bolliver Butt Thursday #42
Anything I don't like. niyad Thursday #43
Oh, I don't know Cirsium Saturday #106
on that we agree! Oliver Bolliver Butt Saturday #110
Great Cirsium Saturday #111
In the same world that sealions move goalposts Torchlight Friday #57
Oh, come on Cirsium Friday #77
Did my post just get called ridiculous by someone claiming that "food is free"? Oliver Bolliver Butt Friday #96
Correct Cirsium Friday #97
this is why we lose elections Oliver Bolliver Butt Friday #98
Oh, sure it is Cirsium Friday #99
Nice bumper sticker Torchlight Saturday #100
And when healthy food is available moonscape Thursday #35
EXACTLY. see post 15. niyad Thursday #39
Who says they have to buy healthy food? EX500rider Friday #63
You're arguing a point I neither made nor implied. Torchlight Friday #65
Maybe you could acquaint yourself with some of the restrictions, niyad Friday #70
There's certainly some self-righteous sanctimonious posting going on here EX500rider Friday #74
ohhh myyyyyy. Our mileage does indeed vary. Thank you for confirming niyad Friday #86
I'm not against junk food restrictions but I support an increase in the amount provided as eating healthy isn't cheap. cstanleytech Thursday #8
See post 15. niyad Thursday #17
Many poor people lack kitchens in which to whip up those great recipes from scratch with all their helpful vitamins. CTyankee Friday #54
This doesn't stop them from buying TV dinners and macaroni and cheese and other easy quick Foods EX500rider Friday #64
Why do we get to be their food cop? CTyankee Friday #66
If the taxpayer is footing the bill the taxpayer has some say EX500rider Friday #67
I agree. How can we get at this problem as a society? CTyankee Friday #72
Yes which is why produce is a good area to provide more money to spend on as you don't need to cook salads. cstanleytech Friday #68
A great point. The issue is how we get such foods to those who need, but can't afford to buy, those food items. CTyankee Friday #73
"The five plaintiffs--who live in Colorado, Iowa, Nebraska, Tennessee and West Virginia..." BaronChocula Thursday #10
Really.?? What, exactly, are we to understand by that? niyad Thursday #12
With the exception of Colorado BaronChocula Thursday #13
Then why include Colorado? niyad Thursday #16
It was taken verbatim from the article BaronChocula Thursday #22
Thank you. niyad Thursday #23
... BaronChocula Thursday #24
Are people in those states less worthy of having food Bettie Thursday #26
The story they want to push with these restrictions, 70sEraVet Thursday #14
I think it's that taxpayer funded diabetes is a bad idea. pcdb Thursday #40
Do you seriously think ANY of this bs debate has to do with genuine concern niyad Thursday #44
Maybe not to Republicans pcdb Thursday #47
That isn't an either/or, regardless of how you frame it. Perhaps you niyad Friday #49
What other issues? pcdb Friday #89
Before I start screaming about the self-righteous sanctimony and niyad Thursday #15
But at what point is the line drawn? Polybius Thursday #37
Supplemental Nutrition. .last I checked, household items do not niyad Thursday #41
Ok, so we're in agreement Polybius Saturday #103
Starting April 1, Texas also will ban SNAP purchases of many drinks that use artificial sweeteners. Celerity Friday #55
yes yes yes yes Cirsium Friday #79
You think household supplies and alcohol should be covered by SNAP? Polybius Saturday #104
Nonsense Cirsium Saturday #105
It's an interesting position that I never heard anyone take Polybius Saturday #113
Why? Cirsium Saturday #114
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Saturday #115
That's what cash assistance is for Polybius Yesterday #123
That isn't what being a Democrat is for Cirsium 21 hrs ago #125
No, it's a normal approach Polybius Yesterday #122
Normal approach? Cirsium 22 hrs ago #124
Totally agree with you IzzaNuDay Friday #56
That's an entirely different issue though but it's one that does need to be addressed urgently IMO. cstanleytech Friday #69
No, it is obviously a central part of the issue. niyad Friday #71
Thank you Cirsium Friday #78
You are most welcome. One would not think such a post was needed niyad Friday #83
If I remember correctly in NYS/C... electric_blue68 Thursday #25
I remember exactly that decades ago when I got food stamps. NH Ethylene Thursday #27
In my case it was just for me... electric_blue68 Thursday #29
I can't speak for NYS, but soda and candy was allowed in NYC when I was on it Polybius Thursday #36
I'm an NYC'r but don't have SNAP anymore... electric_blue68 Thursday #45
I think I wrote this the other day. chouchou Thursday #30
Why should there be ANY "percentage for fun" designation? By WHOSE niyad Thursday #34
I understand your point. I was thinking that the "Other sons-a-####"" would stop trashing the poor.. chouchou Friday #50
I can welll understand your desire to try that. However, as old and jaded niyad Friday #52
Unfortunately, your words are true. I keep hoping that mostly people are kind, fair and just. chouchou Friday #58
It is good to have hope and optimism. niyad Friday #59
Absolutely. We can go shopping like professionals. chouchou Friday #60
yayyyy niyad Friday #61
You haven't been able to buy beer or wine for decades MichMan Thursday #31
see post 15 niyad Thursday #32
OMG, enough with the post #15 GenThePerservering Friday #75
Good for you Cirsium Friday #81
Thank you for confirming my post. niyad Friday #85
Creative use of Reductio ad absurdum. Very serious stuff Torchlight Friday #62
Let us add one little thing to this discussion. Apprroximately FIFTY PERCENT niyad Thursday #33
Not everyone has cooking facilities or equipment. Demobrat Thursday #46
THANK YOU!! And then there are the tuly homeless. I have never niyad Friday #48
I only didn't mention them because Demobrat Friday #87
Many shelters provide an address orangecrush Saturday #117
Where does it say "fresh food"? It says no "candy and sugary drinks" That would leave tons of options.. EX500rider Friday #51
90 billion dollars the defense department wasted on lobster, crab and steak 🥩 questionseverything Friday #82
90 billion? You sure about that? EX500rider Friday #90
Sure there was some furniture, ice cream machines, musical instruments and questionseverything Friday #92
The figure I saw was 22 million EX500rider Friday #94
I think a snickers or a Reeces has more protein than chips or pastries questionseverything Friday #95
Thank you Cirsium Friday #80
when i was on snap, ShepKat Friday #76
see post 15 niyad Friday #84
You had a home with a working kitchen to make them in. Demobrat Friday #88
Most folks on snap have to supplement it with food pantry items or cash questionseverything Friday #93
This is nothing more than the continaution of Ronald Reagan and the "welfare queen driving Cadillacs" radicalleft Friday #91
Soda isn't food OC375 Saturday #102
Grow up? berniesandersmittens Saturday #108
All about taxing the rich on my end OC375 Saturday #112
A snickers has 4-5 grams of protein ( from the peanuts) questionseverything 21 hrs ago #126
Buy a bag of nuts then OC375 21 hrs ago #127
Obviously you don't need to use the gas station/ convenience store grocery questionseverything 20 hrs ago #128
Rural OC375 20 hrs ago #129
Nothing is the way it was 20-30 years ago so spare me the " walked uphill in the snow " stories questionseverything 20 hrs ago #130
No snickers and soda isn't punishment OC375 17 hrs ago #131
This isn't the hill Democrats should die upon NickB79 Saturday #109
Bye orangecrush Saturday #118
Ciao NickB79 Saturday #120
I could not care less what people spend them on. Demobrat Saturday #119
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Saturday #121
Dispensaries take food stamps? Demobrat 14 hrs ago #132
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