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In reply to the discussion: WikiLeaks: Bradley Manning's motives are no defence, judge rules [View all]Ash_F
(5,861 posts)And it looks like you still managed to not do any homework in the meantime. You don't know that the documents were among Manning's leaks? You can't be serious? Holy crap, stop being so obstinate and google it.
As far as the gender of the victims, I pointed it out to you because it was YOU who got the facts wrong, which betrayed that you haven't done any reading and don't even know what you are talking about here. You need to understand that the crimes were not only classified, but left un-investigated, un-prosecuted AND the company still gets contracts from US taxpayers. This company(Dyncorp) was previously caught trafficking female sex slaves in Bosnia in the 90's. That went un-prosecuted too and the perps were allowed to walk with just a resignation. Google it.
Have you considered spending merely 5 minutes to research the facts of the case instead of taking however long it takes you to type out these inane responses? It is hard to have a real conversation with someone who chooses to remain ignorant.
I am glad that you, finally, can admit that the crimes should not have been kept classified, but do you remember the original post with which you responded to me(#99)? Maybe you should read it again, now knowing what you know, and consider if you would still make the same statement.
I have already provided chat logs from Manning, which came from the man who turned him in, wherein he stated that he was deeply disturbed by the content of the documents("incredible things, awful things
things that belonged in the public domain"
. Maybe this specific, incredibly awful, thing was not one that he was talking about. Unfortunately the leaks contain a lot of incredibly awful things that belong in the public domain(just like the Pentagon Papers), so it is hard to say. How is that material to this discussion at all? Nobody asked Ellsberg if he took issue with every single crime detailed in the 7000 page papers, as if there was one he did not care about, then it would mean he was wrong to release them at all.
It is the job of public servants to protect against these crimes. Instead the diplomats, who were supposed to be the front-line in this, decided to bury it when it was reported to them. If Private Manning had not outed them, then nobody would have and we would still be ignorant. He was doing his job by upholding the constitution. He did his country a service.
Can you now admit that it is at least a good thing that you are aware of these crimes? Because you would not be if not for Bradley Manning.