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3. I just don't get this whole H-1B visa game.

Mon Mar 4, 2013, 10:21 PM

Mar 2013

IF we need engineers so bad we have to steal from other countries, then WHY DON'T WE EDUCATE MORE? If we need H-1B visas to bring the work force to this country, then can't we educate our students or our work force here in this country? Are we too fookin' dumb to educate now?
I'm all for immigration. In fact, my wife is going to be submitting her application for citizenship in the next few weeks; but I also seem to recall hearing about a work force of some 13 million?, 20 million?, hell - I don't remember what the HUGE NUMBER is; but can't we put OUR PEOPLE TO WORK at good paying jobs?
I was having dinner with my son and his family, and we got into a discussion about how Cuba has more doctors per capita than any other country in the world. They have doctors harvesting sugar cane, from what I've heard - true or not, I don't know. And WE NEED more doctors in this country, if we are going to be adding another 40 million+ citizens to the health care program. Wouldn't it just make sense that we PUSH to educate more? Give incentives, such as paying off their education if they commit to working for the government or state hospitals/health care offices, etc? Damn, it just doesn't seem like "rocket science" to me. What am I missing here?

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H-1B visas used by firm to create low-cost workforce, U.S. alleges [View all] OhioChick Mar 2013 OP

Gasp Phlem Mar 2013 #1

Anywhere there's a greedhead in charge. another_liberal Mar 2013 #4

I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you! valerief Mar 2013 #13

Wow. Who could have foreseen this? (I mean, other than the Corpos) . . . Journeyman Mar 2013 #2

I just don't get this whole H-1B visa game. Hulk Mar 2013 #3

You'll have to temper that with Phlem Mar 2013 #9

Fuckin' A! AAO Mar 2013 #15

Yeah, nothing personal, just business, what a bullshit concept. xtraxritical Mar 2013 #17

CEO's economic target is his bonus check and golden parchute. n/t L0oniX Mar 2013 #18

That pretty much Phlem Mar 2013 #23

Companies want cheap labor LiberalEsto Mar 2013 #10

Can you back up your assertion that companies with H-1B workers bend the rules? WilmywoodNCparalegal Mar 2013 #29

Here's some testimony from House Immigration Subcommittee hearings & more LiberalEsto Mar 2013 #35

As you noted, they were years apart WilmywoodNCparalegal Mar 2013 #37

But American IT workers are still being screwed out of jobs LiberalEsto Mar 2013 #38

Is your brother-in-law willing to relocate? primavera Mar 2013 #48

Unfortunately he's stuck in NJ because of his kids LiberalEsto Mar 2013 #49

I'm sorry, that sucks primavera Mar 2013 #50

They have all kinds of ways to get around that wage issue LiberalEsto Mar 2013 #51

Well, I never said the program was perfect primavera Mar 2013 #52

The flaw in your analysis is that you let companies get away with over specification of qualificatio cap Mar 2013 #58

You do know, of course, that paralegal functions are getting outsourced to India? cap Mar 2013 #60

You presume a great deal primavera Mar 2013 #64

You miss the experiences of my generation cap Apr 2013 #65

Wow, a lot of issues there primavera Apr 2013 #68

Yup- My son is going to college for CS Marrah_G Mar 2013 #40

Any one remember the NSDL program? Retrograde Mar 2013 #57

We have engineers. They just don't to pay them the going rate. SharonAnn Mar 2013 #11

Skilled welding will not qualify for H-1B visas WilmywoodNCparalegal Mar 2013 #32

Missing is the simple truth that management never wants to pay full price. Ford_Prefect Mar 2013 #12

First, we do "educate more" Yavin4 Mar 2013 #33

We should be pushing for better education primavera Mar 2013 #46

True experts have always come into this country on an O visa cap Mar 2013 #59

Where are all the DU Immigration Lawyer's responses on this one??? ChromeFoundry Mar 2013 #5

H1-B visas are a racket TexasBushwhacker Mar 2013 #6

Because employers can be audited and inspected by ICE or USCIS or DOL WilmywoodNCparalegal Mar 2013 #34

The fact that your fathers company can't find people for 2years is BS cap Mar 2013 #61

They get audited primavera Mar 2013 #47

Start hiring African Americans in droves cap Mar 2013 #62

The Departments of Labor and State are Complicit As Well mckara Mar 2013 #7

Why would you be hiring a non-American caregiver? FrodosPet Mar 2013 #26

Ah, In a Perfect World, That would Be the Solution mckara Mar 2013 #28

So how would a foreign company operate in the U.S. if it were barred to bring in people from the HQ WilmywoodNCparalegal Mar 2013 #30

The same way it used to and the same way American firms operate in Europe cap Mar 2013 #63

Did you have attorney assistance? The H-1B is not a good visa option for caregivers WilmywoodNCparalegal Mar 2013 #36

My Lawyer's Assessment: Don't Waste Your Time or Money mckara Mar 2013 #39

Why couldn't you hire an caregiver that already lives here? Marrah_G Apr 2013 #66

H1B DainBramaged Mar 2013 #8

As Nic Cage once "said." sakabatou Mar 2013 #14

Ah yes free market capitalism at work. Don't cha just luv it n/t L0oniX Mar 2013 #16

We need more STEM graduates to do what now? jsr Mar 2013 #19

Oh, that's easy cuncator Mar 2013 #21

Be teaching assistants to teach more undergrads? BadgerKid Mar 2013 #53

K&R... midnight Mar 2013 #20

OMG, that is SO hard to believe!!! Skittles Mar 2013 #22

They should have hid it better daybranch Mar 2013 #24

so how can these poor(er) countries greymattermom Mar 2013 #25

In general, they only have a military presence in one country - their own. Nihil Mar 2013 #27

They must not have paid their protection money this month. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2013 #31

Kick! sarcasmo Mar 2013 #41

There are other guest worker visa like the H-2 program for farm & forest work that are peonage Sunlei Mar 2013 #42

great article - nt markiv Mar 2013 #43

SOP - nothing new here markiv Mar 2013 #44

I'm shocked The Second Stone Mar 2013 #45

This is why people formed unions Yavin4 Mar 2013 #54

it is exactly the sort of stuff that caused the formation of unionjs nt markiv Mar 2013 #55

Whenever I see posts like these.... Yavin4 Mar 2013 #56

No shit, Sherlock Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #67