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59. Yes, I recognize that the Methodists and other Protestant denominations, such as

Sat Mar 16, 2013, 08:53 PM

Mar 2013

the Society of Friends, have wonderful track records when it comes to, what I would identify as Christian behavior (in fact much better records than the Catholics). These churches believe in and promote human rights and work for the fair treatment of the whole community. I honor and respect them. I hoped my original post allowed for the existence of some benevolent Christian organizations. I meant it to.
The banking problems, the pedophilia, the ex-Pope's secretary in jail, the church backing socially regressive legislation and policies, the list goes on and on. This new Pope has lots to deal with.
You are right to suggest that the church could be a force for much good but I fear that that notion was inserted into their Mission Statement for PR reasons alone.

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Pope Francis wants 'poor Church for the poor' [View all] dipsydoodle Mar 2013 OP

Does That Mean He's Giving Up the Two Palaces Wolf Frankula Mar 2013 #1

Check out the posts on catholic.com: NYC Liberal Mar 2013 #2

"combatting the sin and immorality is more pressing" OneGrassRoot Mar 2013 #15

Agreed Freddie Mar 2013 #26

The last pope also talked about how rotten capitalism is and has been RainDog Mar 2013 #40

I could not believe when the Vatican literally said you spend too much time on the poor and not hrmjustin Mar 2013 #62

the current pope is theologically in the same group as Ratzinger RainDog Mar 2013 #65

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When I was reading about the theological positions RainDog Mar 2013 #70

The Bishops might deny it but the closing of parishes have the effect of making nominal church hrmjustin Mar 2013 #71

The Catholic Church, with all its flaws (and there are many) iemitsu Mar 2013 #44

You're so right. We shall see... OneGrassRoot Mar 2013 #46

My secret hope is that the church decides it has to truly reform iemitsu Mar 2013 #48

Depends on the Protestant denomination. JDPriestly Mar 2013 #53

Yes, I recognize that the Methodists and other Protestant denominations, such as iemitsu Mar 2013 #59

The Vatican told the nun's of the USA that they spend too much time on the poor and not enough time hrmjustin Mar 2013 #61

Yeah, the response of the Vatican to Americans Nun's work with the poor iemitsu Mar 2013 #76

He already said that he didn't want to wear the red shoes. Beacool Mar 2013 #4

That's 'cuz the angels wanna wear 'em ... Arugula Latte Mar 2013 #21

Funny!! Beacool Mar 2013 #78

Ya, know Sherman A1 Mar 2013 #5

+1 n/t ColesCountyDem Mar 2013 #6

Right? It's a progressive step. demwing Mar 2013 #9

He didn't pop up out of thin air. HuckleB Mar 2013 #17

You are entitled to your opinion Sherman A1 Mar 2013 #47

Perhaps it would have been better put as give the man a chance. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #64

here's some information about his political affiliation RainDog Mar 2013 #68

I wish Martini could have been pope. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #69

Heh, that should tell anyone exactly what kind of person this new pope is. Of all the corrupt idwiyo Mar 2013 #87

You're one reasonable man demosincebirth Mar 2013 #42

agreed! nt Tumbulu Mar 2013 #82

Better inform the parish priests... Squaredeal Mar 2013 #3

I like this Pope. Beacool Mar 2013 #7

ditto dipsydoodle Mar 2013 #8

There's always a lot of prejudice against the Catholic church. Beacool Mar 2013 #20

You have a lot of nerve. ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2013 #24

Exactly MellowDem Mar 2013 #29

You take a lot of offense over a post that was not directed at you. Beacool Mar 2013 #43

It was directed at me. ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2013 #45

I am gay and a former Roman Catholic who is now Episcopalian and I agree that we must always hrmjustin Mar 2013 #66

Anti Catholic? ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2013 #91

I was not calling you ant-catholic. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #92

A Pope will never be in favor of gay marriage or abortion Ter Mar 2013 #75

Sure. ForgoTheConsequence Mar 2013 #90

Hey, Beacool! elleng Mar 2013 #57

Hi, how are you? Beacool Mar 2013 #77

Here's a news flash skepticscott Mar 2013 #11

The man has been Pope for only a few days. Beacool Mar 2013 #14

The problem is that he has a history of sticking himself into politics in Argentina. HuckleB Mar 2013 #16

He gets a probation period, not a grace period--given all the RCC has done that is... Moonwalk Mar 2013 #28

+1000 skepticscott Mar 2013 #32

As noted, what he's said publicly so far skepticscott Mar 2013 #31

The key to finding out what is going on will be to watch how he handles the JDPriestly Mar 2013 #54

Maybe the Holy Spirit will move him to the progressive side of the aisle. hrmjustin Mar 2013 #63

If the HS intends to do that with a pope skepticscott Mar 2013 #72

The Vatican reminds me of the DEA RainDog Mar 2013 #41

Wow, great..the RCC is not political skepticscott Mar 2013 #10

VERY glad to see recognition that the church's political activities should end.nt patrice Mar 2013 #12

He's good at PR. HuckleB Mar 2013 #13

Ultimately, he is now pope b/c of the pr disaster of Ratzinger RainDog Mar 2013 #89

Didn't he juse kick Vernon Cardinal Law out of a position that Ratzy appointed him to? jerseyjack Mar 2013 #18

Really, that fast? Tumbulu Mar 2013 #84

So all you poor people who can't afford to feed your Smilo Mar 2013 #19

Exactly. I can understand the objection to abortion, but contraception? Flaxbee Mar 2013 #22

Give the RCC a hundred years or so Freddie Mar 2013 #27

But how can he (or anyone else) help the poor, if... OldEurope Mar 2013 #23

You'd be surprised how far a little money goes to alleviating the problem of being poor jcboon Mar 2013 #25

Sure. OldEurope Mar 2013 #37

Wait, where's the poster who kept saying a Jesuit would never name himself after a Franciscan? Duer 157099 Mar 2013 #30

Several people made that argument in my post: undeterred Mar 2013 #56

Yes,, the Pope does claim that he chose the name Francis to honor iemitsu Mar 2013 #79

It is wonderful to see such a humble Pope. UrbScotty Mar 2013 #33

Uh huh. Sure. Zoeisright Mar 2013 #36

Here's what makes no sense skepticscott Mar 2013 #38

Never mind that he is a homophobic bigot and misogynyst. It's not important. Not at all. idwiyo Mar 2013 #52

Bingo! Fearless Mar 2013 #60

A wonderful person?!?! Really? n/t Humanist_Activist Mar 2013 #58

Oh, yeah, so wonderful, unless you're a woman or gay, but, hey, why sweat the details, right? Arugula Latte Mar 2013 #81

Maybe it's hard Turbineguy Mar 2013 #34

Vatican bank is going to crush him elfin Mar 2013 #35

Shaping up to be a remake of "The Godfather Part III" dogknob Mar 2013 #39

I'm betting on large PR move. JVS Mar 2013 #50

Oh bullshit. Tell ya what .... broadcaster75201 Mar 2013 #49

Yeah, and embrace condoms and other contraception. That's a great way to fight poverty. Arugula Latte Mar 2013 #80

Ebay sale? n/t Pryderi Mar 2013 #51

We'll see I hope he lives up to his word gopiscrap Mar 2013 #55

Kick n/t Tx4obama Mar 2013 #73

Yeah,,,,,,,RIGHT! tabasco Mar 2013 #74

I am very happy to read this Tumbulu Mar 2013 #83

he wants a poor church... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2013 #85

With an attitude like that, he'll last as long as Pope John Paul I (Albino Luciani) no_hypocrisy Mar 2013 #86

Something new for Catholics to justify vs. the philosophy of Jesus. cbrer Mar 2013 #88