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primavera

(5,191 posts)
50. I'm sorry, that sucks
Sun Mar 24, 2013, 12:30 PM
Mar 2013

But I don't know how the employers are managing to hire H-1Bs for less than they're paying US workers. In order for an H-1B to be approved, the employer has to pay - at bare minimum - the prevailing wage determined by the Department of Labor (DoL). If the employer isn't willing to pay the prevailing wage, Labor won't approve it, USCIS won't issue the visa, and the person won't be admitted into the US, period, end of story. I don't know much about the methodology DoL uses to determine what the prevailing wage for a specific position should be, I gather it's some sort of survey they conduct. Hypothetically, I suppose that, if there were enough low paid positions in a specific region for a specific job title, it could impact the survey results, but it would have to be a pretty significant percentage of those positions in order to make an appreciable impact on the overall job market. In my own admittedly anecdotal experience, I've generally found DoL wage determinations to be fairly generous. For example, looking up my own occupation in the prevailing wage tables, I've always fervently wished that I was paid as well as the Department of Labor believes I should be paid. As a US citizen, though, unlike foreign workers, there are virtually no laws governing how little I can be paid, so I've never even come close to making prevailing wage. I know that, in bygone days, it used to be the case that you could employ some sleazy wage determination by some private company who, if you paid them enough, would attest that the prevailing wage for a CEO in New York was $7.50/hour. And yeah, there were employers sleazy enough to use such sleazy services, not many, but some. But I'm pretty sure that they closed that loophole years ago and you now have to use the Department of Labor's wage determination. I suppose you could hire an H-1B employee under a lower-level job description, for which the prevailing wage would be lower, but that would be fraud and, if you ever get caught doing it - and there are ample ways for an employer to get caught - the visa would be immediately revoked and the petitioning employer would be permanently barred from ever again participating in the H-1B program. I hear what you're saying, I'm just at a loss to imagine how it could occur.

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Gasp Phlem Mar 2013 #1
Anywhere there's a greedhead in charge. another_liberal Mar 2013 #4
I'm shocked! Shocked, I tell you! valerief Mar 2013 #13
Wow. Who could have foreseen this? (I mean, other than the Corpos) . . . Journeyman Mar 2013 #2
I just don't get this whole H-1B visa game. Hulk Mar 2013 #3
You'll have to temper that with Phlem Mar 2013 #9
Fuckin' A! AAO Mar 2013 #15
Yeah, nothing personal, just business, what a bullshit concept. xtraxritical Mar 2013 #17
CEO's economic target is his bonus check and golden parchute. n/t L0oniX Mar 2013 #18
That pretty much Phlem Mar 2013 #23
Companies want cheap labor LiberalEsto Mar 2013 #10
Can you back up your assertion that companies with H-1B workers bend the rules? WilmywoodNCparalegal Mar 2013 #29
Here's some testimony from House Immigration Subcommittee hearings & more LiberalEsto Mar 2013 #35
As you noted, they were years apart WilmywoodNCparalegal Mar 2013 #37
But American IT workers are still being screwed out of jobs LiberalEsto Mar 2013 #38
Is your brother-in-law willing to relocate? primavera Mar 2013 #48
Unfortunately he's stuck in NJ because of his kids LiberalEsto Mar 2013 #49
I'm sorry, that sucks primavera Mar 2013 #50
They have all kinds of ways to get around that wage issue LiberalEsto Mar 2013 #51
Well, I never said the program was perfect primavera Mar 2013 #52
The flaw in your analysis is that you let companies get away with over specification of qualificatio cap Mar 2013 #58
You do know, of course, that paralegal functions are getting outsourced to India? cap Mar 2013 #60
You presume a great deal primavera Mar 2013 #64
You miss the experiences of my generation cap Apr 2013 #65
Wow, a lot of issues there primavera Apr 2013 #68
Yup- My son is going to college for CS Marrah_G Mar 2013 #40
Any one remember the NSDL program? Retrograde Mar 2013 #57
We have engineers. They just don't to pay them the going rate. SharonAnn Mar 2013 #11
Skilled welding will not qualify for H-1B visas WilmywoodNCparalegal Mar 2013 #32
Missing is the simple truth that management never wants to pay full price. Ford_Prefect Mar 2013 #12
First, we do "educate more" Yavin4 Mar 2013 #33
We should be pushing for better education primavera Mar 2013 #46
True experts have always come into this country on an O visa cap Mar 2013 #59
Where are all the DU Immigration Lawyer's responses on this one??? ChromeFoundry Mar 2013 #5
H1-B visas are a racket TexasBushwhacker Mar 2013 #6
Because employers can be audited and inspected by ICE or USCIS or DOL WilmywoodNCparalegal Mar 2013 #34
The fact that your fathers company can't find people for 2years is BS cap Mar 2013 #61
They get audited primavera Mar 2013 #47
Start hiring African Americans in droves cap Mar 2013 #62
The Departments of Labor and State are Complicit As Well mckara Mar 2013 #7
Why would you be hiring a non-American caregiver? FrodosPet Mar 2013 #26
Ah, In a Perfect World, That would Be the Solution mckara Mar 2013 #28
So how would a foreign company operate in the U.S. if it were barred to bring in people from the HQ WilmywoodNCparalegal Mar 2013 #30
The same way it used to and the same way American firms operate in Europe cap Mar 2013 #63
Did you have attorney assistance? The H-1B is not a good visa option for caregivers WilmywoodNCparalegal Mar 2013 #36
My Lawyer's Assessment: Don't Waste Your Time or Money mckara Mar 2013 #39
Why couldn't you hire an caregiver that already lives here? Marrah_G Apr 2013 #66
H1B DainBramaged Mar 2013 #8
As Nic Cage once "said." sakabatou Mar 2013 #14
Ah yes free market capitalism at work. Don't cha just luv it n/t L0oniX Mar 2013 #16
We need more STEM graduates to do what now? jsr Mar 2013 #19
Oh, that's easy cuncator Mar 2013 #21
Be teaching assistants to teach more undergrads? BadgerKid Mar 2013 #53
K&R... midnight Mar 2013 #20
OMG, that is SO hard to believe!!! Skittles Mar 2013 #22
They should have hid it better daybranch Mar 2013 #24
so how can these poor(er) countries greymattermom Mar 2013 #25
In general, they only have a military presence in one country - their own. Nihil Mar 2013 #27
They must not have paid their protection money this month. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2013 #31
Kick! sarcasmo Mar 2013 #41
There are other guest worker visa like the H-2 program for farm & forest work that are peonage Sunlei Mar 2013 #42
great article - nt markiv Mar 2013 #43
SOP - nothing new here markiv Mar 2013 #44
I'm shocked The Second Stone Mar 2013 #45
This is why people formed unions Yavin4 Mar 2013 #54
it is exactly the sort of stuff that caused the formation of unionjs nt markiv Mar 2013 #55
Whenever I see posts like these.... Yavin4 Mar 2013 #56
No shit, Sherlock Yo_Mama Apr 2013 #67
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