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70. The fact that no serious regulations will be passed...

Wed Apr 3, 2013, 01:52 PM

Apr 2013

....even though UBC and Mag capacity had an opportunity to pass, with support from gun owners? And that opportunity was pissed away by overreaching?

I just don't understand why the Pro Control movement doesn't use some intelligence, get a few victories, and build off of that.

What has changed in the demographics/polls of Pro/Anti 2A since AWB 1 that gives Antis the idea that they are making profess?

And when you focus on what is a small (in percentage) issue compared to handguns - it makes the cause seem a little odd. It goes for the news splash rather than the day to day issue of handgun violence.

And why, why, why, if pro Control really wants to do something - why aren't they going after handguns? I am still waiting to hear an explanation for that.

This isn't gay marriage where the country is opening its eyes and acceptance is expanding rapidly. Because people, even idiots, are realizing gay marriage doesn't effect them and their beliefs at all. 2A is a very different issue.

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California Legislature takes first steps toward 'ammo control' [View all] alp227 Apr 2013 OP

Go California Politicalboi Apr 2013 #1

That will just lead to more people reloading on their own ammo. LAGC Apr 2013 #2

Or buying out of state ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #3

Yep, so-called "law-abiding" gun owners figuring out ways to avoid laws. Hoyt Apr 2013 #14

That is not illegal under the proposed law ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #16

Just because something is legal doesn't make it right. Hoyt Apr 2013 #20

Since the ammunition is not being banned, why not? ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #26

That's what Randy Weaver said too. In any event, you are the typical gun owner, and why Hoyt Apr 2013 #36

Here we go, premium Apr 2013 #39

Based upon previous communication with you -- Hoyt Apr 2013 #43

My buddy? premium Apr 2013 #48

His buddy? You are the one quoting him regularly ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #51

You must know Weaver well, given that you cite unique quotes from him that no one else has ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #50

Yes, had a number of debates with Gungeoneers here who think Weaver was a poor misunderstood Hoyt Apr 2013 #52

This is comedy gold at it's best. premium Apr 2013 #54

So just how well do you know Weaver to come up with all those quotes? ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #55

You are the one sticking up for him, not me. He is responsible for what happened to him. Hoyt Apr 2013 #56

Who's sticking up for him? premium Apr 2013 #57

You are talking to the Pat Robertson of gun control advocacy. friendly_iconoclast Apr 2013 #89

You are the one quoting from him like a good friend, not anyone else ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #59

Odd that... I often cite unique quotes from Cicero, yet I never knew the guy. LanternWaste Apr 2013 #68

I doubt they are unique unless you are like Hoyt ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #69

What restriction? premium Apr 2013 #28

Once again, your gun love blinds you to what being responsible/law-abiding really means. Hoyt Apr 2013 #38

Gun love? What gun love? premium Apr 2013 #42

Neither is squirreling away money in offshore accounts to escape taxes primavera Apr 2013 #22

What do you do when the "law is an ass" ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #25

You have to wait and see primavera Apr 2013 #74

Most Americans don't believe that all laws are stupid...only the ones they disagree with ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #83

It's a pity they see it as telling them "what they need" primavera Apr 2013 #104

Should a woman in North Dakota not drive Bay Boy Apr 2013 #77

How dare you make apt and appropriate comparisons ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #80

Do I hear crickets? Bay Boy Apr 2013 #93

Hell, all that needs to happen is for some enterprising premium Apr 2013 #17

Might be easier to do it on the western fringe of LV ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #18

That would probably be better, premium Apr 2013 #21

Here is another ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #23

Thanks for the link. premium Apr 2013 #24

Yes, we must not "piss off" the sacred and special "gun owners." PSPS Apr 2013 #4

Well, the "perfect" is often the enemy of the "good." LAGC Apr 2013 #7

Extreme and over-reaching? Control-Z Apr 2013 #12

Again who cares what they do? upaloopa Apr 2013 #34

I think it will be spotty at best and state to state variations will continue to increase ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #66

people will buy less ammo CreekDog Apr 2013 #5

Or they will get it out of state ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #30

Just as with smoking on average people will buy less CreekDog Apr 2013 #58

Why don't you look at the real world on this ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #60

the real world is that if you make something more expensive and more complicated to do, there's less CreekDog Apr 2013 #84

Like cannabis, for instance? friendly_iconoclast Apr 2013 #88

yes, there are many, many people that don't buy it b/c it's not legal CreekDog Apr 2013 #103

I think reloading 5,000 rounds will be a bit more daunting than getting mbperrin Apr 2013 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author friendly_iconoclast Apr 2013 #11

Maryland dumped ballistic fingerprinting after *one* conviction in five years: friendly_iconoclast Apr 2013 #13

I'd say one conviction in five years is great! mbperrin Apr 2013 #85

Not really ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #35

I don't know why we can't serialize something as large as a round. mbperrin Apr 2013 #86

Where and how would you serialize a 22LR round ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #87

I see marks on these. mbperrin Apr 2013 #96

It doesn't scale or handle the quantities involved well ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #99

I was an inventory specialist for the oil industry before I became a teacher. mbperrin Apr 2013 #102

Or buying from more than one dealer. Can you say "Road Trip!"? friendly_iconoclast Apr 2013 #10

Ban powder, press and bullet sales jpak Apr 2013 #19

We really don't care about what pisses off gun owners. upaloopa Apr 2013 #29

Let us see how the next election goes ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #31

Not hardly. What makes you think you out number the people who upaloopa Apr 2013 #37

Lets see how it goes ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #61

Indeed, I have a feeling we are going to get hammered in 2014. LAGC Apr 2013 #64

I am on the fence somewhat and think it will be a state by state thing ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #67

The fact that no serious regulations will be passed... WinniSkipper Apr 2013 #70

You really should, premium Apr 2013 #32

Give me a break. That means there are at least upaloopa Apr 2013 #40

Population is 307 million not 360 million as your math suggests. CokeMachine Apr 2013 #91

Thanks for the correction. I was making a WAG upaloopa Apr 2013 #92

No Problem CokeMachine Apr 2013 #94

You too have a good night upaloopa Apr 2013 #95

Charge for ALL Constitutional Rights Macoy51 Apr 2013 #15

Nice try. Try life liberty and the persuit of happiness upaloopa Apr 2013 #41

They are not inherently in conflict ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #46

They are when you get shot upaloopa Apr 2013 #47

Actually it depends on the courts, who have found them not inherently in conflict ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #53

So make a law against shooting people. N/T beevul Apr 2013 #90

Access to ammo isn't a right Politicub Apr 2013 #98

"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny... slackmaster Apr 2013 #100

Do you think that raising the cost of ammo... Bay Boy Apr 2013 #76

Less concerned about ammunition than firearms. Deep13 Apr 2013 #6

Very True Macoy51 Apr 2013 #71

That's with Ruger 10/22... Deep13 Apr 2013 #75

All they had to do was ban the sale of the mag body for repair kits. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #8

What I like most about these laws is that upaloopa Apr 2013 #27

I thought it was CO that they were saying that about, premium Apr 2013 #33

And NY too ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #44

Just wait you'll hear it about CA too upaloopa Apr 2013 #45

No doubt. nt. premium Apr 2013 #49

Have to wonder if they will move the California State trap shoot to Reno or Las Vegas ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #62

We'd welcome them with open arms. nt. premium Apr 2013 #72

When I was competing, LV and Reno were always nice shoots. ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #73

I'm glad I stocked up when ammunition was cheap slackmaster Apr 2013 #63

I am seeing more and more available these days ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #65

What does transferred mean? n/t Bay Boy Apr 2013 #78

Sold or given away ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #79

two questions Bay Boy Apr 2013 #81

It is all gone at this point. Got a pretty penny for it. ProgressiveProfessor Apr 2013 #82

Awesome! They need to tax ammo like cigarettes Politicub Apr 2013 #97

Better post some agents on the AZ border mwrguy Apr 2013 #101