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54. Interesting perspective

Thu Feb 9, 2012, 02:14 PM

Feb 2012

Your reply certainly is true. It is about the Catholic Church's inability to admit that their teachings are grounded in ignorance. My question for you is - do you believe that the government mandate is the way that will bring change or just invoke sympathy for the church and against the President? I'm interested in your thoughts.

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Tim Kaine splits with Obama on birth control rule for religious groups [View all] Freddie Stubbs Feb 2012 OP

Tim Kaine is ridiculous!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2012 #1

Tim Kaine has an election to win Proud Public Servant Feb 2012 #2

Didn't say that I disagree, it's just that I think he's a weak Democrat and have always Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2012 #13

He can't be an anti-choice candidate and still be different than a Republican. Ken Burch Feb 2012 #31

If you think there's no difference between an anti-choice Dem and a Republican, Proud Public Servant Feb 2012 #36

First, Casey wasn't the ONLY Dem who could possibly have beaten Santorum... Ken Burch Feb 2012 #37

Reid versus McConnell Proud Public Servant Feb 2012 #42

It doesn't have to be a Virginian Feingold Ken Burch Feb 2012 #44

People tend to over estimate Virginia Dr_Scholl Feb 2012 #69

He doesn't have to run against the Democratic Party's core values to do that. Ken Burch Feb 2012 #46

Tim Kaine knows how to get elected as a Democrat in Virginia Freddie Stubbs Feb 2012 #3

Bingo [n/t] Proud Public Servant Feb 2012 #4

Tim Kaine isn't non-conservative on any major issue. Ken Burch Feb 2012 #33

Yes, and one year after Obama carried Virginia Proud Public Servant Feb 2012 #38

The loss in Virginia in 2009 was largely Kaine's fault Ken Burch Feb 2012 #39

He is opposed to capital punishment Freddie Stubbs Feb 2012 #52

OK..fine...on that one issue...which won't even come up in the U.S. Senate Ken Burch Feb 2012 #55

He supported Obama's stimulus plan Freddie Stubbs Feb 2012 #68

We were in massive debt at the time, so it was a no-brainer... Blue_Tires Feb 2012 #70

It wasn't a no-brainer for conservatives Freddie Stubbs Feb 2012 #72

Virgins in Virginia don't need contraception nt julian09 Feb 2012 #5

yeah better a DINO than a RINO...or are those the same thing? nt msongs Feb 2012 #7

The only real diffrences is the sway of who holds majority party power and committee power Lone_Star_Dem Feb 2012 #18

And if Kaine gets to be a commitee chair, we can assume Ken Burch Feb 2012 #49

freshman will not be a committee chair karynnj Feb 2012 #67

True, I'll take him over any Republican. I just hope that he doesn't pull an Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2012 #14

Seems like every dem.... dennis4868 Feb 2012 #23

By persecuting women? Ken Burch Feb 2012 #32

By running as a Republcan? Ken Burch Feb 2012 #45

Or, at least he think he knows Blue_Tires Feb 2012 #59

Hmm kenfrequed Feb 2012 #10

Read my post #14 above. I don't think it'll be a good strategy to distance Liberal_Stalwart71 Feb 2012 #15

Hmm kenfrequed Feb 2012 #19

I think this may loose Obama the election. JoyN62 Feb 2012 #17

A majority of Catholics support birth control. Just because the leadership of the church Arkana Feb 2012 #21

Most catholics... dennis4868 Feb 2012 #25

K&R red dog 1 Feb 2012 #28

Like millions of my fellow Americans I choose to leave the Catholic Church over birth control. olegramps Feb 2012 #29

But this fight is not about birth control in the mind of the church JoyN62 Feb 2012 #51

I could not disagree with you more. olegramps Feb 2012 #53

Interesting perspective JoyN62 Feb 2012 #54

People, especially the younger people will be the deciding element. olegramps Feb 2012 #71

so this is about Tim Kaine getting elected in Virginia. got it. Obama3_16 Feb 2012 #6

Damn WaPo got it wrong, elleng Feb 2012 #8

Obama is not forcing anything on anyone.... dennis4868 Feb 2012 #26

First of all it is insurance companies, NOT religious institutions. Second, and most important, I still_one Feb 2012 #9

This is why Debbie is running things now, Tim. MjolnirTime Feb 2012 #11

OH Sick from the bottom of my socks harry23 Feb 2012 #12

Cancel all coverage for male impotence and we'll call it even perdita9 Feb 2012 #16

the Catholic church is pro-boner, anti-women Skittles Feb 2012 #27

Eh, Kaine is anti-choice too Arkana Feb 2012 #20

The real question is...is he with us MORE than against us? Ken Burch Feb 2012 #34

If you can't accept the guys who are with us on 90-95% of issues, Arkana Feb 2012 #43

Kaine isn't with us on 90-95% of the issues. Ken Burch Feb 2012 #47

I don't know if you're a Virginian or not Blue_Tires Feb 2012 #60

Solution is very simple. The feds offer birth control coverage to anyone whose employer won't. McCamy Taylor Feb 2012 #22

ingenious! (n/t) a2liberal Feb 2012 #30

Kaine is not the issue. Obama's re-election is the issue. red dog 1 Feb 2012 #24

Kaine should be barred from running for any Democratic nomination Ken Burch Feb 2012 #41

Who gives a damn what this DINO thinks. Odin2005 Feb 2012 #35

It can't be good for Obama for our nominee in Virginia to be sharply to Obama's right Ken Burch Feb 2012 #40

It's his reward for being a good soldier Blue_Tires Feb 2012 #61

Kaine was practically invisible during his DNC leadership years in the Shrub regime Canuckistanian Feb 2012 #48

And every special election loss we had in 2009 was Kaine's fault. Ken Burch Feb 2012 #50

Including losing his own state Blue_Tires Feb 2012 #62

If you can send me some more info about the internal party foolishness in a pm, I'd be much obliged. Ken Burch Feb 2012 #64

pm sent Blue_Tires Feb 2012 #66

gotta love these right wingers in the Dem party... such Pragmatists, aren't they??? fascisthunter Feb 2012 #56

No one is forcing the Catholic church to do anything DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2012 #57

Tim just cut the legs out of this non-issue with the Republican nominee underpants Feb 2012 #58

Which would mean something if it weren't for the fact that, on every issue besides the death penalty Ken Burch Feb 2012 #63

"...Kaine criticized the Obama administration’s new policy..." unkachuck Feb 2012 #65