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In reply to the discussion: John Paul Stevens: Bush v. Gore Decision Rationale Was 'Unacceptable' [View all]CreekDog
(46,192 posts)32. What are you going on about? Stevens voted AGAINST the decision which put Bush in the White House
why are you commenting ignorantly?
no one is forcing you to post on a topic you know nothing about, why are you?
there's nothing wrong with not knowing how each Justice voted on Bush v. Gore, *if you don't actually comment* on that vote!
jeez, before you embarrass yourself more, read some information about the decision:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_v._Gore
In brief, the breakdown of the decisions was:
Seven justices (the five Justice majority plus Breyer and Souter) agreed that there was an Equal Protection Clause violation in using different standards of counting in different counties.[3]
Five justices agreed that December 12 (the date of the decision) was the deadline Florida had established for recounts (Kennedy, O'Connor, Rehnquist,[31] Scalia and Thomas in support; Breyer, Ginsburg, Souter and Stevens opposed).
Three justices (Rehnquist, Scalia and Thomas) argued that the Florida Supreme Court had acted contrary to the intent of the Florida legislature. However, four justices (Breyer, Souter, Ginsburg, and Stevens) specifically disputed this in their dissenting opinions, and the remaining two Justices (Kennedy and O'Connor) declined to join Rehnquist's concurrence on the matter.
Justice Stevens' dissent (joined by Justices Breyer and Ginsburg) concluded as follows:[37]
What must underlie petitioners' entire federal assault on the Florida election procedures is an unstated lack of confidence in the impartiality and capacity of the state judges who would make the critical decisions if the vote count were to proceed. Otherwise, their position is wholly without merit. The endorsement of that position by the majority of this Court can only lend credence to the most cynical appraisal of the work of judges throughout the land. It is confidence in the men and women who administer the judicial system that is the true backbone of the rule of law. Time will one day heal the wound to that confidence that will be inflicted by today's decision. One thing, however, is certain. Although we may never know with complete certainty the identity of the winner of this year's Presidential election, the identity of the loser is perfectly clear. It is the Nation's confidence in the judge as an impartial guardian of the rule of law.
In brief, the breakdown of the decisions was:
Seven justices (the five Justice majority plus Breyer and Souter) agreed that there was an Equal Protection Clause violation in using different standards of counting in different counties.[3]
Five justices agreed that December 12 (the date of the decision) was the deadline Florida had established for recounts (Kennedy, O'Connor, Rehnquist,[31] Scalia and Thomas in support; Breyer, Ginsburg, Souter and Stevens opposed).
Three justices (Rehnquist, Scalia and Thomas) argued that the Florida Supreme Court had acted contrary to the intent of the Florida legislature. However, four justices (Breyer, Souter, Ginsburg, and Stevens) specifically disputed this in their dissenting opinions, and the remaining two Justices (Kennedy and O'Connor) declined to join Rehnquist's concurrence on the matter.
Justice Stevens' dissent (joined by Justices Breyer and Ginsburg) concluded as follows:[37]
What must underlie petitioners' entire federal assault on the Florida election procedures is an unstated lack of confidence in the impartiality and capacity of the state judges who would make the critical decisions if the vote count were to proceed. Otherwise, their position is wholly without merit. The endorsement of that position by the majority of this Court can only lend credence to the most cynical appraisal of the work of judges throughout the land. It is confidence in the men and women who administer the judicial system that is the true backbone of the rule of law. Time will one day heal the wound to that confidence that will be inflicted by today's decision. One thing, however, is certain. Although we may never know with complete certainty the identity of the winner of this year's Presidential election, the identity of the loser is perfectly clear. It is the Nation's confidence in the judge as an impartial guardian of the rule of law.
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Lies have a way of catching up....They want to right this wrong before they meet thei finial Judge..
Tippy
May 2013
#26
What are you going on about? Stevens voted AGAINST the decision which put Bush in the White House
CreekDog
May 2013
#32
Wasn't O'Connor's point that the court didn't need to take the case as opposed to the decision?
24601
May 2013
#60
I know that. Just all of a sudden, the Supremes are coming out and saying it candidly
AllyCat
May 2013
#68
Remember there were 2 decisions. The first was 7 to 2.Stevens had nothing to do with the 5 to 4
graham4anything
May 2013
#5
Stevens didnt make a mistake. He dissented from the majority and wrote the dissenting opinion.
stevenleser
May 2013
#76
He wrote the dissenting opinion on Bush v Gore - he was never for that decision - so there's only
UpInArms
May 2013
#16
Stevens commented on that at the time. This is nothing new. His dissent said it all.
stevenleser
May 2013
#75
My observation was that two of the Justices have recently commented on Bush v. Gore
AndyA
May 2013
#78
If you don't know that Stevens voted against the decision, why are you commenting on it?
CreekDog
May 2013
#30
Stevens is one of the good ones.If only they stopped after the 7 to 2 to go back to Florida.
graham4anything
May 2013
#4
Nader was no longer in my book after that. To me he has undone all the good things
JackN415
May 2013
#9
I agree with you, except I don't think Roberts will begin siding with the majority.
spooky3
May 2013
#11
You've brilliantly refuted the argument that Nader didn't have the right to run.
Jim Lane
May 2013
#62
The logic that Ralph Nader is to blame for our current mess is totally absurd.
rhett o rick
May 2013
#66
"I don't know of anyone -- any real live person -- who believes that "it's all Nader's fault." "
rhett o rick
May 2013
#70
His conscience is bothering him. He was a member of a SCOTUS that overstepped it's
rhett o rick
May 2013
#14
That would be a question for him. It sounds like it to me. Maybe he doesnt think he did
rhett o rick
May 2013
#49
For those keeping score, responses in this thread are running 14 False and 17 True
CreekDog
May 2013
#40
The responses require a double face palm. In fact, I only wish I had more arms and hands so that...
stevenleser
May 2013
#77
Most of us on DU agreed with Stevens way back in 2000. And he is still right.
JDPriestly
May 2013
#46
You do know that Stevens wrote the *dissenting* opinion in Bush v Gore, don't you?
longship
May 2013
#52