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211. Kerry joined people like Gary Hart who was one of the first New Democrats

Thu May 30, 2013, 08:59 AM

May 2013

His voting record was ALWAYS closer to Kennedy's than the cluster of DLC Democrats. You may remember that Kennedy, who was as clear a liberal Democrat as there was, endorsed Kerry for President in 2003 and in 2005/2006 repeatedly said that he was still for Kerry. This changed ONLY when Kerry announced he was not running.

You may want to consider that Kerry worked with Kennedy on many issues including a bill Kerry/Kennedy that was a precursor to Kennedy/Hatch's SCHIP, he also worked on many mental health parity bills and was the sponsor through three Congresses of a bill to set up a fund for affordable housing that was incorporated into the 2008 banking bill.

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Obama to Pick Former Bush Official to Lead F.B.I. [View all] choie May 2013 OP

Of course he does. Why would we expect anything different at this point? villager May 2013 #1

Excellent point! Pterodactyl May 2013 #91

Obama never met a Republican he wouldn't nominate. blkmusclmachine May 2013 #178

read response #4. graham4anything May 2013 #2

That's right - the hell with who the nominee is... choie May 2013 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author graham4anything May 2013 #5

... warrprayer May 2013 #25

All the conservatives are happy with this move. Just one more conservative rhett o rick May 2013 #31

see reply #4. graham4anything May 2013 #33

Why? We already know that everything can be rationalized and excused. merrily May 2013 #160

Does this help? Maybe read up before the knees start to jerk too hard OKNancy May 2013 #4

That won't matter to those who PREJUDGE our President. nt Pragdem May 2013 #7

Yeah, we're pre-judging FiveGoodMen May 2013 #104

Good and telling word alcibiades_mystery May 2013 #143

In their eyes, the black man is incapable of making informed decisions... Pragdem May 2013 #216

You hit the nail on the head. Boom! appacom May 2013 #226

Prejudging would have been assuming before the fact that he would appoint a Republican. merrily May 2013 #154

Correct, but I was referring to the assumptions people are making about why he did it. Pragdem May 2013 #217

"Bush" and "hedge fund" got the dogs to salivate michigandem58 May 2013 #193

And people that fucking stupid are liabilities to the Democratic Party. nt Pragdem May 2013 #215

Well there ya go, my synapsis still fire from time to time. Melinda May 2013 #8

Yup! OKNancy May 2013 #10

Thank you for this info, OKNancy. I was startled reading the headline of the OP BlueCaliDem May 2013 #9

Startled? Why? He's approached and/or nominated so many Republicans, starting with merrily May 2013 #155

And they both served him well, didn't they? War is winding down and the economy is on the rebound. BlueCaliDem May 2013 #208

The day they dont attack Obama for a decision is the day I am going to win the powerball. nt cstanleytech May 2013 #15

Loser OKNancy May 2013 #16

Yup, I know. nt cstanleytech May 2013 #20

Please refrain from posting facts ... Summer Hathaway May 2013 #58

It amazes me to no end that Fitzgerald is still revered by some of you. DefenseLawyer May 2013 #68

They don't revere Fitz. They revere every single move by Obama Doctor_J May 2013 #114

+1 merrily May 2013 #173

questions for you OKNancy Skittles May 2013 #79

Comey stood up to Bush and everyone else in the administration about the wire tapping issue. He's okaawhatever May 2013 #128

Thanks, Nancy. The guy has integrity. pacalo May 2013 #83

people with integrity Skittles May 2013 #106

He has proven that he can separate politics from doing what is right. pacalo May 2013 #113

And, of course that is the truth from heaven, simply because Obama said it. merrily May 2013 #162

You need to read OKNancy's post #4. pacalo May 2013 #166

I read it. See Reply 160 and my other replies on this thread. merrily May 2013 #167

You replied to me. I'm not beholden to you to read all of your rants on this thread. pacalo May 2013 #169

You are the one who told me which rant to read. merrily May 2013 #171

That quote was in OKNancy's post & you took it out of context, attributing the quote to Obama. pacalo May 2013 #172

And, because it supports Obama's choice, it's gospel to certain Democrats, even merrily May 2013 #174

The fact is, I've liked Comey ever since he stood up to Gonzales & Bush. pacalo May 2013 #179

Or war criminals choie May 2013 #141

THANK YOU Skittles May 2013 #149

It's that "Former Bush Official" that gets to you! AndyA May 2013 #89

Well, that and "Republican" and "corporatist" and "yet another white male in a top position." merrily May 2013 #163

Thanks for the link. PragmaticLiberal May 2013 #103

Good post. It's too easy to knee jerk Politicub May 2013 #120

LOL! merrily May 2013 #164

THANK YOU! Could you PLEASE make an OP out of your post? n/t jenmito May 2013 #126

Help whom with what and why? merrily May 2013 #152

Obama overlooks DEMS, even when they're equally qualified as his rightwing choice. blkmusclmachine May 2013 #177

I remember Comey from both scandals..he acted honorably and did his job. nt msanthrope May 2013 #194

Thank you OK. The man appears to be career, Kahuna May 2013 #195

IIRC, Comey stood up to Bush* and refused to go along w/NSA wiretapping Melinda May 2013 #6

I guess that's why we have this 'smilie'? SCVDem May 2013 #11

I hope folks recall how strong Comey was AGAINST bush's game playing, elleng May 2013 #12

But... he was once on the same planet as George Bush whistler162 May 2013 #13

THANKS for this, whistler! elleng May 2013 #23

And couple that to the fact that some on this site believe Obama = Bush, well BlueCaliDem May 2013 #86

Yes, I posted some snips from the wiki page OKNancy May 2013 #14

Right and thanks, OKNancy. elleng May 2013 #24

HOPE people saw him on Rachel show! elleng May 2013 #102

The article details how Comey clashed with the Bush white house alp227 May 2013 #148

Like I keep saying... ReRe May 2013 #17

read the rest of the thread OKNancy May 2013 #18

I read you guy's stuff all the time... ReRe May 2013 #26

Me Too warrprayer May 2013 #32

I'm a Democrat and a realist OKNancy May 2013 #48

The "real world" is what we get for continually excusing betrayal FiveGoodMen May 2013 #107

Assuming that whatever Obama does is all that realistically can possibly be done is fantasy and merrily May 2013 #165

Thank you, ReRe choie May 2013 #19

Maybe because you're knee jerking ReRe and don't know the whole story? Cha May 2013 #27

Cha? Cha? ReRe May 2013 #73

I hear your frustration, ReRe. But, I know that there are still plenty Cha May 2013 #80

The only party thats been hijacked is the Republicans ReRe. cstanleytech May 2013 #92

Well, thank God we all vote Democrat! ;-) n/t ReRe May 2013 #96

Well, mostly atleast. cstanleytech May 2013 #98

I will confess.... ReRe May 2013 #111

Back then is when I changed more to voting democrat as well. cstanleytech May 2013 #138

read reply #4 graham4anything May 2013 #35

Fook me once, shame on you. Fook me twice... merrily May 2013 #157

Is this country so corrupt that..... whistler162 May 2013 #196

Well... this thread went straight to Hell, didn't it? ReRe May 2013 #21

Well since you're the one calling others "Ostriches".. then I Cha May 2013 #30

They cook better that way. ChairmanAgnostic May 2013 #62

Oh good Christ... warrprayer May 2013 #22

Never fails. The apoligists swarm in to protect Obama's terrible choices, of which there are MANY. blkmusclmachine May 2013 #180

Good move. lamp_shade May 2013 #28

Horrible move. blkmusclmachine May 2013 #181

I despise Bush as much as anyone on this board but.. DCBob May 2013 #29

But the Pres always chooses conservatives. This isnt the first Bush buddy rhett o rick May 2013 #34

Always?? DCBob May 2013 #43

Statistically, always. rhett o rick May 2013 #140

Clearly you dont have a clue what an actual conservative is. DCBob May 2013 #205

Always is very easy to reject - all we need is one - try Hilda Solis karynnj May 2013 #212

"Even I" should be able to see it? Plez rhett o rick May 2013 #213

Do you know the meaning of "always"? karynnj May 2013 #214

Gee, I didnt know that Kerry and Hillary before him were conservatives. nt cstanleytech May 2013 #55

They are conservative Democrats. TransitJohn May 2013 #99

Neither of those charts is a gold standard for saying where someone is on the political spectrum karynnj May 2013 #130

+1 DCBob May 2013 #204

"Do you seriously see Dennis Kucinich as a likely Obama appointee - for anything?" cstanleytech May 2013 #218

Hillary is a DLC co-founder and Kerry a member of the Senate New Democrat Coalition. merrily May 2013 #170

Kerry joined people like Gary Hart who was one of the first New Democrats karynnj May 2013 #211

So what has Obama's "reaching across the aisle" EVER gotten DEMOCRATS? MotherPetrie May 2013 #38

I think its more about whats GOOD for the COUNTRY.. DCBob May 2013 #41

God forbid Obama EVER do anything good for DEMOCRATS! Not while there are Republicans MotherPetrie May 2013 #44

In most cases it should be the same.. DCBob May 2013 #51

Appointing Bush administration officials is good for the country? Doctor_J May 2013 #69

in this case it could. DCBob May 2013 #118

That is the same as saying that DEMOCRATS zeemike May 2013 #137

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You can't be bipartisan by yourself. zeemike May 2013 #200

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And I agree with that. zeemike May 2013 #206

And God knows the other bipartison lovechild, the sequester . .. markpkessinger May 2013 #153

What's good for the country is destroying the Republican Party politically. stillwaiting May 2013 #199

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Ain't that the troof moonbeam23 May 2013 #85

Certain situations? Yeah, a rare Republican and/or corporatist nomination by Obama. merrily May 2013 #161

UNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE. Still bending over for "bipartisanship" and screwing his own party. MotherPetrie May 2013 #36

How quickly some forget.... warrprayer May 2013 #40

Obama's doing "his" Party just fine. The DEMS, on the other hand ... blkmusclmachine May 2013 #182

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welcome to R. ... er, D.U. warrprayer May 2013 #39

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I stand corrected...but I wish he would... SummerSnow May 2013 #52

I read the whole story.. James Comey sounds like someone who puts the law above politics.. Cha May 2013 #45

Reading is hard work, Cha! sheshe2 May 2013 #60

And, Sooo much easier to implode one's head, Cha May 2013 #63

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You don't know.. maybe he's really f^^^^^^ good Cha May 2013 #75

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The president prefers Repukes to Dems Doctor_J May 2013 #76

Fock that!!! Why does head of FBI always HAVE to be a Bush loyalist? blm May 2013 #46

I totally agree with John2 May 2013 #53

Did you read the whole story, John? Cha May 2013 #64

OK, you John2 May 2013 #109

That's good to know.. so what did Rachel say? Cha May 2013 #116

Rachel showed his testimony before congress and explained the Ashcroft hospital room incident. He okaawhatever May 2013 #132

I just saw it online, okaawhatever. Was glad for the headsup! Cha May 2013 #134

thanks for the heads up for Rachel's program on James Comey, John.. I Cha May 2013 #131

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Shulman and Lerner were 2 stinkbombs planted at IRS by Bush and blm May 2013 #201

The facts make your speculation implausible Ms. Learner is a career civil servant (as am I) 24601 May 2013 #225

And kids, we are surprised why? We should know that Democrats can't do all that complicated stuff. Safetykitten May 2013 #49

Probably better than J Edgar Hoover roamer65 May 2013 #50

Well heck, that's putting the fox in the hen house. southernyankeebelle May 2013 #56

So shocked. Shocked, I tell you. n/t bitchkitty May 2013 #57

Just put on a pair of Centristic rose colored glasses. It makes all the betrayals go away. blkmusclmachine May 2013 #183

... Crow73 May 2013 #59

here's more from WaPo.. DCBob May 2013 #61

If he's not a Dem, he's not qualified nobodyspecial May 2013 #66

not just that he is not a dem Skittles May 2013 #110

Touche, Skittles! Carolina May 2013 #219

And that says. zeemike May 2013 #139

Gee, no Democrat would ever have done anything like that, so obviously merrily May 2013 #159

Why not, he never saw a former Bush official that he didn't like. AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #65

Comey, a registered republican, donated money to McCain and Romney Corruption Inc May 2013 #67

The president continues to schmooze those who detest him Doctor_J May 2013 #70

They don't "detest" him out on the golf course. blkmusclmachine May 2013 #184

What could go wrong? Rain Mcloud May 2013 #74

Not one single qualified Dem in the entire country Doctor_J May 2013 #78

Starting to?... SidDithers May 2013 #125

Has Anybody Informed The President That HE WON The Last Election ??? WillyT May 2013 #82

Has anyone informed him he's a Democrat?? AAO May 2013 #90

He still thinks he's a Republican. He also still thinks it's the 90s too, I bet. blkmusclmachine May 2013 #185

Not a good thing IMO! Were there no good democrats for the job Mr. President? hrmjustin May 2013 #84

Odd, I would think putting qualifactions first over political party would be the better way cstanleytech May 2013 #94

Oh I understand that he is qualified and a good man but I still wold have prefered a democrat. hrmjustin May 2013 #97

By all means. Nominate a Republican to every office in the executive branch Doctor_J May 2013 #112

Excellent choice. Seems like a principled guy that will help avoid an unnecessary battle... Pragdem May 2013 #88

President Obama might nominate Miguel Estrada to DC Circuit to make repukes happy Hawaii Hiker May 2013 #122

That's certainly the impression Obama takes pains to give MotherPetrie May 2013 #129

At some point you have to look past the "D" and look at Obama's ACTIONS. blkmusclmachine May 2013 #186

I think you nailed it MotherPetrie May 2013 #222

In all fairness to President Obama moonbeam23 May 2013 #93

His SCOTUS nominations haven't been great either. Lasher May 2013 #191

Chess Move® TransitJohn May 2013 #95

Who's being Played? blkmusclmachine May 2013 #188

I'm ok on this guy based on the video that Rachel is showing. nt onehandle May 2013 #100

Oh yeah. He's rubbing the repukes' noses in their own shit. truthisfreedom May 2013 #117

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can you BELIEVE these people? Skittles May 2013 #144

Order taker lofty1 May 2013 #101

Nobody Has Mentioned The Bankster/FBI Connection Tace May 2013 #105

I posted an article in General Discussion titled 7 reasons... It discusses his prosecutions of a okaawhatever May 2013 #146

NNNOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! blackspade May 2013 #108

Bush III mc51tc May 2013 #115

Its far more accurate to say that the republicans in congress and the senate cstanleytech May 2013 #121

Post removed Post removed May 2013 #142

11,000 plus posts makes you superior? mc51tc May 2013 #210

Welcome to DU Carolina May 2013 #220

Thank you! It is great to be here:) mc51tc May 2013 #221

.... DeSwiss May 2013 #119

Bipartisanshit: blkmusclmachine May 2013 #187

Greed is Good. GeorgeGist May 2013 #124

CHANGE! FORWARD! LIES YOU CAN BELIEVE IN! blkmusclmachine May 2013 #189

Once again there were no Democrats or at least someone without ties to Wall Street available dflprincess May 2013 #127

WHY DOES HE KEEP DOING THIS?!?!?!?!?!?! kestrel91316 May 2013 #133

Hoover Lite? Maybe there's a connection. merrily May 2013 #156

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! OnyxCollie May 2013 #136

Why not appoint Medea Benjamin? Huh? Huh? Huh? Oba,ma worshippers will accept ANYTHING!!!! alcibiades_mystery May 2013 #145

Calm down. merrily May 2013 #150

lol! darkangel218 May 2013 #158

If this guy is so friggin' great... B Stieg May 2013 #147

Obviously, too few Democrats are qualified to serve in the administration of merrily May 2013 #151

MUST READ: Comey's unsent 2004 letter to Bush (step down) temmer May 2013 #168

Gee, too bad no Democrats have integrity or qualifications, huh? merrily May 2013 #175

The Corruption is Thick in DC: blkmusclmachine May 2013 #176

Mercy Jamastiene May 2013 #190

The more things change the more they stay the same davidn3600 May 2013 #192

Comey really isn't a bad pick PDittie May 2013 #197

Can he get any Democrat confirmed by the Republican obstructionist Senate? If so, let me know. Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2013 #207

.... DeSwiss May 2013 #223

What? Leura Canary was busy? Octafish May 2013 #209

Obama's new FBI chief approved Bush's NSA warrantless wire tap TakeALeftTurn May 2013 #224