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Snowden SamKnause Jun 2013 #1
There is a white House on line petition cyclezealot Jun 2013 #9
It's now at 105,404. I highly encourage people to continue signing it Catherina Jun 2013 #15
Snowden SamKnause Jun 2013 #17
Caution---You will make their enemies list warrant46 Jun 2013 #35
Thanks, done, K&R. nt wtmusic Jun 2013 #36
"we expect" <- The kind of language used towards subordinates Ash_F Jun 2013 #2
Who owns who though? tblue Jun 2013 #5
We both have the other by the fiddly bits, if you want to put a fine point on it. MADem Jun 2013 #14
Hong Kong doesn't need us all that much. There is a whole world JDPriestly Jun 2013 #18
They answer to PRC, though. They are as "independent" as Beijing ALLOWS them to be. MADem Jun 2013 #21
If they were limiting this to targetting the PRC, it would be much smaller, JDPriestly Jun 2013 #31
I agree that we have been pennywise and pound foolish regarding our IT hiring. MADem Jun 2013 #45
Being bored in high school is no excuse. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #48
Who will do the divine intervention on Unit 61398, I wonder? MADem Jun 2013 #49
We would be more effective in shutting it down if we were not doing massive JDPriestly Jun 2013 #51
I doubt that. We're pikers compared to them. MADem Jun 2013 #58
And they probably target people like Snowden. They no doubt JDPriestly Jun 2013 #59
Church is still out on that theory, but I wouldn't be shocked if that turned out to be the case. MADem Jun 2013 #60
I agree. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #61
I am not surprised about the metadata, actually. MADem Jun 2013 #62
I understand and appreciate the concern about Chinese hacking of our JDPriestly Jun 2013 #23
Agreed marions ghost Jun 2013 #32
That is a mighty interesting choice of words. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #3
I thought this part especially 'good' azurnoir Jun 2013 #4
That's exactly what our govt. is telling Hong Kong. premium Jun 2013 #6
Rule of law. Rule of law?? This administration talks about the rule of law???... truth2power Jun 2013 #7
The WH appealing to the "rule of law" at this point is laughable. nt 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #8
The program itself chills our fundamental rights and is therefore JDPriestly Jun 2013 #19
That's pretty much my take as well 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #28
thanks for that marions ghost Jun 2013 #33
What else would you expect? Swede Atlanta Jun 2013 #10
"following in the footsteps" dipsydoodle Jun 2013 #24
American values: "We expect" Obama to grant a pardon and curtail spying on citizens. PSPS Jun 2013 #11
Snowden is not the story,. the info. he released is. Civilization2 Jun 2013 #12
Sometimes we don't get what we expect. DeSwiss Jun 2013 #13
"Hong Kong has been a historically good partner of the United States Lugal Zaggesi Jun 2013 #16
+1000, JDPriestly Jun 2013 #20
And they're supposed to be the Good Guys in this equation? MADem Jun 2013 #22
Re: Hong Kong & China want to show ... mallard Jun 2013 #25
Little late. ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2013 #26
So they did indeed mallard Jun 2013 #27
Hong Kong and China just shook off that pesky gum stuck to their shoe! MADem Jun 2013 #29
yawn marions ghost Jun 2013 #34
Unit 61398, that's who. nt MADem Jun 2013 #42
Oh gosh marions ghost Jun 2013 #44
You're not coming from a place of understanding. Have a nice day. nt MADem Jun 2013 #46
You have not made a good case for your POV marions ghost Jun 2013 #47
That's your view and you're certainly entitled to it. MADem Jun 2013 #50
The NSA is watching so I guess you're right, I should shut up marions ghost Jun 2013 #52
You might do well to not take online discussions so personally. MADem Jun 2013 #54
OK well I guess since You're sure the NSA doesn't care about me marions ghost Jun 2013 #55
Good move. nt MADem Jun 2013 #56
They aided and abetted his escape. MADem Jun 2013 #39
And THIS is EXACTLY where the US is going if these programs... TheMadMonk Jun 2013 #30
China has been down this road since the eighties, when they were stealing and copying MADem Jun 2013 #41
And there's at least some evidence, that "intercepted" trade secrets... TheMadMonk Jun 2013 #53
Really? MADem Jun 2013 #57
No I DO NOT believe it should be a free for all. TheMadMonk Jun 2013 #63
Well, given that NO one--not them, not us--is going to "stop doing it" this sounds like a free for MADem Jun 2013 #64
You're probably right that it is, was and always will be a free for all. TheMadMonk Jun 2013 #65
Well, it's not our problem, really--it's our educational opportunity. MADem Jun 2013 #66
There aren't any good guys. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #37
Really? MADem Jun 2013 #38
White House just got burned! morningfog Jun 2013 #40
That's funny. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #43
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