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kyeshinka

(44 posts)
39. Russia doesn't change
Tue Jun 25, 2013, 10:48 AM
Jun 2013

No more journalists have been killed on Putin's watch than on Yeltsin's. They still haven't closed the book on Dmitry Kholodov (and they won't) or more than three dozen killed during the White House seige of 1993. The monument behind the Federation building is really sad--many of those journalists were in their 20s. So while it's appropriate to attack Putin, let's remember that Yeltsin was no saint, either, and mafia wars killed a lot of people in the 90s. It may have been worse than in the czarist days when writers were expected to off each other in duels, like Pushkin. I suppose that was more chivalrous--the ONLY way a proud Russian muzhik should go.

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Thank you Vlad. eom Purveyor Jun 2013 #1
That's not what many of these people said BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #2
And I suppose it is a good time to reference Bradley Manning? eom Purveyor Jun 2013 #8
I'm sure Russian soldiers who leak secret documents are treated much better BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #11
Yeah they actually have rules against prolonged solitary confinement. /nt Ash_F Jun 2013 #44
Yeah, but he is doing right here. caseymoz Jun 2013 #21
Love his quote. Daemonaquila Jun 2013 #30
That's a keeper for my sig. East Coast Pirate Jun 2013 #43
"...lots of squealing and little fleece". Putin does have a way with words... truth2power Jun 2013 #63
Check out what the Chinese had to say. go west young man Jun 2013 #84
Putin: Russia will not extradite Edward Snowden dipsydoodle Jun 2013 #3
I suppose he has a brand-spanking new passport. caseymoz Jun 2013 #25
KGB Putin. bunnies Jun 2013 #4
CIA Extraordinary Rendition. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #6
Silly me. bunnies Jun 2013 #12
It is. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #13
So what are you saying? bunnies Jun 2013 #15
Not tit for tat. Hyprocrisy. wtmusic Jun 2013 #49
same thing in this case. bunnies Jun 2013 #51
Russia and China: bastions of a free press michigandem58 Jun 2013 #5
Who said Putin is a hero? Hissyspit Jun 2013 #7
Palin was going on about how great of a guy Snowden is yesterday. Renew Deal Jun 2013 #9
Hey, she can see Russia from her front porch, should we ask her to look and see where okaawhatever Jun 2013 #33
lol Renew Deal Jun 2013 #37
Changing the subject of the OP isn't constructive. dipsydoodle Jun 2013 #10
Putin said Snowden was a free man michigandem58 Jun 2013 #18
He is free to leave the country, but not to leave the airport... Historic NY Jun 2013 #100
Well, then I won't mention . . . Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #24
oh and the us..bastion of free press? xiamiam Jun 2013 #16
Imperfect, but far more so, yes n/t michigandem58 Jun 2013 #19
i dont know how you believe that given the very issues surrounding snowden xiamiam Jun 2013 #32
In the annual Reporters Without Borders free press report America is okaawhatever Jun 2013 #36
Nothing like unbiased Western criticism, based in France, Lugal Zaggesi Jun 2013 #48
Transparency International and other orgs pretty much say the same thing. nt okaawhatever Jun 2013 #57
We're #32! Hissyspit Jun 2013 #71
That would definately be better, but we'll have to go back to the fairness doctrine, okaawhatever Jun 2013 #73
That's your solution to a "Free Press"? Starboard Tack Jun 2013 #88
The Big 6 Corporations Lugal Zaggesi Jun 2013 #101
I don't consider any of those to be credible news organizations. Starboard Tack Jun 2013 #107
And yet if 90% of Americans Lugal Zaggesi Jun 2013 #109
Correct! But they don't have to, they choose to. Starboard Tack Jun 2013 #111
That doesn't matter. caseymoz Jun 2013 #26
The Putin regime is releasing him michigandem58 Jun 2013 #27
No, you don't get it, and don't know why we're screwed. caseymoz Jun 2013 #34
People of the world grow tired of the antics of the USofA. esp. spying and manipulations of them! Civilization2 Jun 2013 #40
One of the worst things we did caseymoz Jun 2013 #103
This message was self-deleted by its author caseymoz Jun 2013 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author anobserver2 Jun 2013 #108
You misunderstand. I don't believe they're going to kill him caseymoz Jun 2013 #110
Correct, Putin doesn't need to do anything, he can just stand back and watch. bemildred Jun 2013 #47
RT is an amazing news agency. check them out. /nt Ash_F Jun 2013 #45
Your freedom scale needs some calibration. wtmusic Jun 2013 #50
Can't be said that the US is the bastion of the free press either. avaistheone1 Jun 2013 #56
Bullshit. What DOESN'T the press get away with reporting in this country, whether it be true or not? phleshdef Jun 2013 #61
If the owners of our news organizations didn't have profound conflicts of interest wtmusic Jun 2013 #64
You are mischaracterizing our situation. phleshdef Jun 2013 #66
The voice of the big corporate interests is proportionately louder wtmusic Jun 2013 #68
Yes, I'm full on board with the notion that we have a problem there... phleshdef Jun 2013 #70
What about the justice department tapping AP? caseymoz Jun 2013 #102
'Remove the mote from thine own eye' comes to mind. The US has NO right truth2power Jun 2013 #67
What does this have to do with whether Russia or China have a free press? GliderGuider Jun 2013 #83
Why don't you start a new OP titled: populistdriven Jun 2013 #92
It's amazing. It only took Edward Snowden for the Libertarian Left to ally themselves with China MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #14
Pretty fucking disgusting, isn't it leftynyc Jun 2013 #28
you arent the only one. n/t iamthebandfanman Jun 2013 #58
Oh? ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2013 #75
I'm not aligned with anyone leftynyc Jun 2013 #76
You tell me. ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2013 #77
You call this a hissy fit? leftynyc Jun 2013 #80
He was in Hong Kong. ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2013 #81
LOL - you purists are hysterical leftynyc Jun 2013 #87
Ally? caseymoz Jun 2013 #29
No kidding. treestar Jun 2013 #35
Fuck that. wtmusic Jun 2013 #52
Should take your own advice about blinders .. iamthebandfanman Jun 2013 #59
No, throwing Stalin into the mix is overreaction. wtmusic Jun 2013 #60
lol, you dont have to use stalin. iamthebandfanman Jun 2013 #69
Ah, so we're back to the last decade. wtmusic Jun 2013 #86
Ah, so were back to making accusations. iamthebandfanman Jun 2013 #89
I never told you in the first place we were "no better off". wtmusic Jun 2013 #94
Ho hum. It's all so trivial.... truth2power Jun 2013 #72
A Moscow airport? kyeshinka Jun 2013 #17
Sheremyetevo nt steve2470 Jun 2013 #23
key part of Putin statement: Snowden...was free to leave and should do so as soon as possible" steve2470 Jun 2013 #20
The Putin regime has murdered numerous journalists michigandem58 Jun 2013 #22
I wonder how many journalists we've murdered? MrMickeysMom Jun 2013 #31
Nice ;) sadly these supporters of any atrocity as long as a 'Dem' is in power can not see facts! Civilization2 Jun 2013 #41
There are murdered journalists we just don't know it! michigandem58 Jun 2013 #55
I'm sure its proportional to the number that drove like maniacs in said Mercedes. phleshdef Jun 2013 #62
Touché truth2power Jun 2013 #74
Were that the case... MrMickeysMom Jun 2013 #91
Fifty-seven percent of fatal vehicle fires are the result of a collision. phleshdef Jun 2013 #95
There was only one eye witness... MrMickeysMom Jun 2013 #96
yeah, no one has ever manipulated a car to accelerate and not brake,. sure. Civilization2 Jun 2013 #99
What BS treestar Jun 2013 #65
Which part? MrMickeysMom Jun 2013 #93
The part where you try to equate us with the Russians treestar Jun 2013 #97
That claim equates all humans as being sentient, and led astray... MrMickeysMom Jun 2013 #98
Russia doesn't change kyeshinka Jun 2013 #39
The murder rate in Russia is worse than Mexico. wtmusic Jun 2013 #53
Mexico was worse as of the end of 2012 Lugal Zaggesi Jun 2013 #104
From your own list: Russia had twice as many murders as Mexico. wtmusic Jun 2013 #105
So Putin intends to punt like China. nt bemildred Jun 2013 #38
Next up - Snowden lands in North Korea Politicub Jun 2013 #46
He just wants us to send Sister Sarah peeking over the horizon to visit him ... Myrina Jun 2013 #54
he deserves Russia and vice versa still_one Jun 2013 #78
Oh how the times have changed: Now Americans openly root for and support Putin. eom tarheelsunc Jun 2013 #79
BREAKING - The White House has asked Russia to expel Snowden immediately, dipsydoodle Jun 2013 #82
"strong law enforcement cooperation" ? Ash_F Jun 2013 #85
Now is the time! Earth_First Jun 2013 #90
Putin Already Has Both DallasNE Jun 2013 #106
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