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59. How do they know then?

Mon Jul 8, 2013, 08:20 AM

Jul 2013

Obviously it is not completely secret.

http://www.lawfareblog.com/2013/06/dni-statement-on-facts-on-the-collection-of-intelligence-pursuant-to-section-702-of-the-foreign-intelligence-surveillance-act/

Some information on what oversight there is.

Of course we could abolish the FISA and go back to the President doing whatever he/she wants, like in Nixon's day.

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those are some big drips! G_j Jul 2013 #32

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Two words: Bush Junta! Coyotl Jul 2013 #20

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Less than 100 pgs in 34 years = "almost a parallel Supreme Court"? lulz. nt ucrdem Jul 2013 #24

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Drat, foiled again. ucrdem Jul 2013 #42

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How do they know then? treestar Jul 2013 #59