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JDPriestly

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59. The calls are not being saved to help the ordinary police.

Wed Jul 24, 2013, 06:46 PM

Jul 2013

Why do you think the NSA/FBI has to subpoena records? What do you think they are subpoenaing? They already have the metadata, that is, the phone bill records. The only things left to subpoena are the records of the voices or e-mails or messages sent.

In fact, the prosecution brought a motion that was heard late one night during the trial and discussed at length here on DU because THEY HAD OBTAINED THE RECORDS OF THE CONTENTS OF TRAYVON'S TEXT MESSAGES, and they wanted the time to encrypt them. The judge ruled that they were irrelevant and denied the motion.

The content of phone calls, texts, everything is being recorded and saved. The FBI can get a subpoena to obtain them.

I am not in denial, but many other DUers are. I do not deny that the NSA/FBI can get a subpoena to listen in to your calls and read your texts in the future or can, alternatively, obtain past records. The hearing at the Trayvon Martin court suggests that is being done.

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