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Divernan

(15,480 posts)
55. I'm so glad you asked!
Tue Aug 6, 2013, 05:26 PM
Aug 2013

(1)Because some here promote the idea that she will go into politics also, so we need to take a close look at how she chooses to live her life.

(2) She has sought publicity, whether in exclusive interviews and glamour photo shoots for high end mags like Vanity Fair and Vogue or on this current highly photographed trip with her father.

But most significantly, because it's worth looking at where the money for this lavishly extravagant purchase came from. (And you're wrong if you think there are 30-something couples purchasing "far wealthier residences in Manhattan - but I'll get to that later.)

(3) The money to purchase this came from where? You say, not "public funds". I say that the vast wealth of this young couple stems from their jobs, their families or some combination thereof. And all of those link back to the connections made by their parents while holding public office, which offices were funded by we taxpayers. Marc's' jobs were at hedge fund 3G Capital & investment banking for Goldman Sachs. (Unlike many people fleeced by scams backed by Wall Street firms like Goldman Sachs, he likely did not use a balloon note to pay for the $4 million apt. he bought in 2008, or the more recent $10.5 Million place.)

Post Palo Alto,Chelsea opted to join a private international consulting firm, McKinsey and Company and then a hedge fund, specifically the Avenue Capital Group, big campaign donors for both her parents. These firms hire young people with connections - and this young couple definitely had blue chip family connections.

Marc's father was heir to a small supermarket chain fortune, but none of the 3 other in-laws were millionaires when they went into politics. They accumulated their wealth when they left office. (Marc's mother was a Congresswoman who is still talking about running for office again.) Marc's father, Edward, former congressman and head of Pennsylvania's Democratic party, lost millions and ended up penniless. He was convicted of fraud and served time in federal prison for shady business deals that had prosecutors calling him a "one-man crime wave." Prosecutors claimed that in 20 years of doing business between 1980 and 2000, every single deal he consummated displayed aspects of fraud. After his indictment in 2001, he pleaded guilty to 31 charges of bank fraud, mail fraud, and wire fraud. He tried to raise a defense of diminished capacity due to his suffering from bipolar disorder, but the judge disallowed it.

On Sept. 27,2002, he admitted that he bilked investors who handed over more than $10 million, including friends, law clients and even his late mother-in-law, and was sentenced to nearly 7 years in prison. Some tried to paint this as though he was the victim of scams. It started out that way, with him losing his own money - but then he kept doubling down and losing money of any one he could talk into "investing" with him. His rip-off of almost $10 million (ironic - there's that $10 million number agani!) got him seven years in ClubFed . He and his wife, Marc Mezvinsky's mother, eventually divorced. He reportedly is estranged from his son. http://congressionalbadboys.com/Mezvinsky.htm

Ed Mezvinsky got out of the federal lock-up in 2008. He remained on federal probation through 2011, and still owes $9.4 million in restitution to his victims. So safe to say the young couple got no financial help from him.
http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Edward-Mezvinsky/242942968

But getting back to parental connections stemming from holding elected offices, leading to very high paying first jobs, I'd call that "public funds" once removed.

I think one's choice of employment, especially when one is not faced with grabbing the first minimum wage job that comes along in order to survive, says a lot about one's character. And I think her recent move to pick up a master's in public health is a stragetgic move to improve her credentials for an eventual run for public office. She's not out working at some grotty public health office, "in the field" - she's doing occasional broadcasts for NBC. She is also teaching graduate level classes at Columbia - unprecedented for someone who does not have a Ph.D. to be teaching at the graduate level! Another boost to the resume and example of how she benefits from her parents' prestige/status.

"Hedge funds as they are now constituted were illegal from 1933 to 2000, as their type of activity was outlawed as it was considered as destabilizing speculation that helped cause the Great Depression. In the year 2000, Bill Clinton turned his back on 67 years of proven financial regulation and signed a bill legitimating speculation. Hillary was running for the U.S. Senate in the State of New York, Moloch's Big Town, and needed the big bucks from the free-booting financiers.

Hedge funds have been major financial backers of Democratic candidates ever since Bill Clinton made like Abe Lincoln, the Great Emancipator, and set them free. Chelsea's mother Hillary received mucho hedge fund loot during her 2008 bid for the Democratic Presidential nomination. Hedge fund managers hedge their bets, and they also heavily backed Barack Obama, who rewarded them with a watered down "financial reform" bill that left hedge funds unmolested and hedge fund mangers' incomes taxed at the lower capital gains tax rate.

(Do we all recall former Goldman Sachs trading desk honcho Rahm Emmanul became President Obama's chief of staff, whilst his Supreme Court nominee, Elena Kagan, worked as a paid "adviser" to the financial power house? Goldman Sachs is what J.P. Morgan and the House of Morgan and Paul Mellon and the Mellon Bank were to Republican Administrations in previous years, the marionette master who pulls the strings.)

As predicted by naysayers, within seven years of Clinton legitimating financial speculation, hedge funds and other speculative financial schemes helped bring the U.S. economy back on its knees in the worse political catastrophe since the Great Depression.

Since it was Bill Clinton's "centrist" Democratic Leadership Council that sold the soul of the Democratic Party to Wall Street, it is fitting that Chelsea Clinton should be marrying the son of a convicted felon who works for the titan of Wall Street, a firm that engages in legal robbery. It recently got off easy from double dealing in the subprime mortgage market

It was recently revealed that Goldman Sachs, the poster child for Wall Street arrogance and cupidity, used some of its bail-out funds to finance overseas operations. Gobs of taxpayer-provided dollars were used to fund its bonus pools, making employees like Marc Mezvinsky very happy indeed. Wall Street perpetrated a massive fraud on America, made possible in part by Marc Mezvinsky's future father-in-law, but got away relatively scot-free, unlike his own father.


http://voices.yahoo.com/who-marc-mezvinsky-chelsea-clintons-husband-is-6490028.html?cat=49

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Article from June on a bipartisan proposal on the issue... PoliticAverse Aug 2013 #1
Thanks for the link. Looks like the point is to prevent future bank bailouts. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #14
I wonder how incredibly ignorant people still are about this? The right-wing spin machine worked jtuck004 Aug 2013 #2
Thank you for this post newfie11 Aug 2013 #3
I'm expect some chewing, but I no longer care. Fannie and Freddie weren't blameless, especially when jtuck004 Aug 2013 #4
Freddie/Fannie fell prey to the same crooks Mnpaul Aug 2013 #7
+1000. nt adirondacker Aug 2013 #44
Not to mention the inconsistency of this compared to what he proposed for student loans. The jwirr Aug 2013 #20
+1000 blackspade Aug 2013 #37
While I agree with the premise that Morganfleeman Aug 2013 #59
Private sector will fix it. Helen Borg Aug 2013 #5
Yep, and all we have to do is further deregulate the banks. Snarkoleptic Aug 2013 #6
"Absolutely" - J. Galt (R) Berlum Aug 2013 #11
Define "fix it" - and please be specific. nt TBF Aug 2013 #48
Once again Obama proposes stealing from poor and middle class to give to the rich bowens43 Aug 2013 #8
Who better to dismantle the social safety net than a democrat. zeemike Aug 2013 #9
How is it stealing from the poor? SunSeeker Aug 2013 #21
Still I wish he could work on breaking up the banks themselves into smaller ones but I cstanleytech Aug 2013 #24
CAN WE HERE THE FREAKING SPEECH FIRST????!!!! AllTooEasy Aug 2013 #53
Chelsea didn't need no stinkin Fannie Mae to buy her $10.5 million Manhattan "apartment". Divernan Aug 2013 #10
Seriously, why does ANYONE need a residence like that? Myrina Aug 2013 #22
I don't know. AngryOldDem Aug 2013 #36
I honestly dont mind them buying such a house, I would do it if I could afford it. cstanleytech Aug 2013 #25
And yet, the "trickle down" myth survives -- and in some circles, thrives. AngryOldDem Aug 2013 #29
Why on earth would 2 adults need 6 and 1/2 bathrooms in a one story apartment? Divernan Aug 2013 #40
So? Why did you choose Chelsea and Marc as an example? Beacool Aug 2013 #51
I'm so glad you asked! Divernan Aug 2013 #55
Just how typical is it for a 30-something couple to spend $10 mil on a Manhattan apt? Divernan Aug 2013 #56
Superb posts here. woo me with science Aug 2013 #60
You are welcome. It's nice to be thanked! Divernan Aug 2013 #63
president privatization strikes again Doctor_J Aug 2013 #12
No, Obama took private banks out of the middle man role on student loans. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #28
Post removed Post removed Aug 2013 #45
Bullshit. It is Just the OPPOSITE! My Government student loans ... adirondacker Aug 2013 #47
No, for-profits previously originated AND serviced student loans. Now only nonprofits service loans. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #49
by lunch time, those who oppose this will be rand-loving libertarians Doctor_J Aug 2013 #13
lol ctsnowman Aug 2013 #15
Fannie Mae was privatized in 1968 under Lyndon Johnson, Progressive dog Aug 2013 #23
" new Glass-Steagall act breaks up the "too big to fail" banks." I really wish they would do that. cstanleytech Aug 2013 #26
Said horse trade embodied by the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act Lasher Aug 2013 #38
What makes me maddest though is the government bailed them out but the government cstanleytech Aug 2013 #58
Don't forget Teabagger. n/t bitchkitty Aug 2013 #30
More bad news. we are ending the work the GOP started in the previous decades. Mass Aug 2013 #16
Swell. City Lights Aug 2013 #17
Just when I think he can't disappoint me any more ... Myrina Aug 2013 #18
Goodbye, fixed-rate loans PSPS Aug 2013 #19
Check out reply #8 from SunSeeker. cstanleytech Aug 2013 #27
I think you mean reply #21 by SunSeeker Lasher Aug 2013 #33
Typical. Go after the victims of Wall Street. Give the Wall Street criminals matthews Aug 2013 #31
It is obvious where he stands, remeber he wants Larry Summers back. JRLeft Aug 2013 #39
These programs worked great for decades before deregulation n privatization on point Aug 2013 #32
Are there any party favors from the big collapse party? Oh, here, look what's left! Safetykitten Aug 2013 #34
Another Obama privatization scheme? blackspade Aug 2013 #35
This actually makes me sick Xyzse Aug 2013 #41
"This will only be worse. " How so, Mr. Xyzse? Kolesar Aug 2013 #46
Quite a few things Xyzse Aug 2013 #50
I think your President has some pleasant surprises before end of term. ConcernedCanuk Aug 2013 #42
Another way to make us have to deal with the greedy private sector! GalaxyHunter Aug 2013 #43
When I read "the private sector" I cringe. Beacool Aug 2013 #52
More privatization by this stealth conservative prez. Maven Aug 2013 #54
He wants to shrink the government until he can drown it in the bath tub Doctor_J Aug 2013 #57
There's a new one every day. woo me with science Aug 2013 #61
I should have known, when I said I wanted a pony... n/t jtuck004 Aug 2013 #62
Ha! woo me with science Aug 2013 #65
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. jtuck004 Aug 2013 #66
I imagine the assets (homes) owned by those two would go to Wall Street. Fire Walk With Me Aug 2013 #64
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