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36. Volume is key, not extent.

Mon Sep 9, 2013, 01:18 AM

Sep 2013

Which is a very shitty metric for the state of the sea ice.

Arctic ice volume has indeed rebounded a tiny bit from 2012, but barely so. Nothing to make you go "wow!"

Especially when the long term trend is downward:

http://psc.apl.washington.edu/wordpress/research/projects/arctic-sea-ice-volume-anomaly/

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