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SylviaD

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1. The evolution "debate"???!!!

Wed Sep 18, 2013, 09:21 PM

Sep 2013

What debate?! The fact that the issue is framed that way means the forces of reason have already lost.

They have already been dragged down into the fundie whackjobs' territory. A territory where creationism and evolution are engaged in any sort of "debate".

This is how the radical right wins. Every time. They frame the wording and phrasing in such a way that the entire argument lurches several steps to the right!!!

How can we stop this?? We need to stop calmly engaging them in "debate" over things like evolution. There is no debate. It ended decades ago.

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The evolution "debate"???!!! SylviaD Sep 2013 #1

Exactly! ybbor Sep 2013 #4

Yup, and they've been 'framing' successfully for years. elleng Sep 2013 #9

How can such a miseducated state still be the largest purchaser... Beartracks Sep 2013 #20

Gone to schools in large, miseducated state elleng Sep 2013 #22

They're the largest purchaser Summer Hathaway Sep 2013 #27

One thing we can do is to DEMAND that the media kentauros Sep 2013 #42

I can't imagine they teach that crap in their regents universities rurallib Sep 2013 #2

The K-12 curriculum is not designed to educate as much as indoctrinate. iemitsu Sep 2013 #26

Yargh. Didn't Kitzmiller v. Dover settle the crap out of this eight years ago? (nt) Posteritatis Sep 2013 #3

Actually, Darwin settled it a good deal earlier... immoderate Sep 2013 #5

Time for another Scopes trial warrant46 Sep 2013 #10

Yes sakabatou Sep 2013 #29

Try INTERnational embarrassment! elleng Sep 2013 #6

If creationism is a competing theory, it competes only in the minor leagues lastlib Sep 2013 #7

Comic books are high science compared to Creationism. hunter Sep 2013 #14

I wholeheartedly agree. lastlib Sep 2013 #18

Yet, our government is requiring that we adopt "common core" standards iemitsu Sep 2013 #28

BECOME? dflprincess Sep 2013 #8

Drip, drip, drip... blkmusclmachine Sep 2013 #11

Yup, they're writing Labor movement out of existence, as well as climate change & some slavery. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #31

The idea that this topic is being discussed is an embarrassment in itself. BlueJazz Sep 2013 #12

There are sane people in Texas! Here are some of them: LongTomH Sep 2013 #13

Wait - why is there a Ninja Turtle there? Beartracks Sep 2013 #21

Time for them to bring in the big guns Rain Mcloud Sep 2013 #15

I always thought that banana thing was not thought out. Beartracks Sep 2013 #47

It just has to sound true Rain Mcloud Sep 2013 #48

So, will the Flintstones be part of the creationist teachings? Vinnie From Indy Sep 2013 #16

"The Flintstones" is considered LibertyLover Sep 2013 #39

Huh. MyshkinCommaPrince Sep 2013 #17

Separation of Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #32

+1 beerandjesus Sep 2013 #44

The good thing about science ... Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #46

God did it . . . another_liberal Sep 2013 #19

Texas is so f***ing embarassing Skittles Sep 2013 #23

Creationism magic beard man. ErikJ Sep 2013 #24

If A Republican Says It, It Is Junk DallasNE Sep 2013 #25

I wonder if Aron Ra will speak sakabatou Sep 2013 #30

Texas teacher here. I will double down on my efforts callous taoboy Sep 2013 #33

Thank you! kentauros Sep 2013 #40

Think of the kids! Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #34

Someone on DU posted this the other day. Enthusiast Sep 2013 #35

The States education funds are stolen from children and used to fund endless 'text book hearings' Sunlei Sep 2013 #36

The Dominionists and others of the religious right have politicized basic education. nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2013 #37

yes. and no Federal or State taxpayer education funds should be used. let the RW groups fund all. Sunlei Sep 2013 #38

Religious conservatives are a national embarrassment. gtar100 Sep 2013 #41

Why should textbook publishers have to cater to a wacko group? Beacool Sep 2013 #43

Even in the Scopes Trial, this position was NOT taken happyslug Sep 2013 #45