US kills two top leaders of terror group that attacked Kenya mall

[Kelvin Mace]

172. Cause and effect - Somalia is a product of imperial policies

Somalia was a British "colony".

Following WWII, Somalia gained independence, but only after Britain made sure to sow the seeds of war by handing over sections of Somalia to Ethiopia.

Somalia then spend the next 40 years as a pawn in the cold war between the US and USSR.

After the collapse of the Soviet empire in the early 90s, Somalia degenerated into civil war. Now, the humanitarian efforts to alleviate the famine and bloodshed by the UN at this time is certainly commendable. The problem was that this help still occurred against a backdrop of manipulation of African politics, policies and resources, meaning that many Somalis deeply distrusted the parties involved, so chaos continued.

Outside terror groups took advantage of the lack of any real government in Somalia to set up camp, and locals turned to terrorism for a variety of reasons.

Which brings us to the situation today, one in which raining "drones" down of the populace is NOT going to fix.

You keep looking at the problems in Somalia in isolation within the context of the last few years. Over a century has been spent screwing this country up by the West, and the solution to the problem will be long an complex, and will NEVER be resolved as long as the solution comes in the form of bombing the population (surgical strikes are BS) and outside parties selling weapons to the people on all sides.

We will never have peace in these regions until we stop exploiting the locals, stealing their resources and stop killing them.

But, let me get to one far more basic issue:

Our government has claimed that they killed the people responsible for a terrorist attack. Given how many times our government has lied about such things and continues to lie to THIS day. Why should we believe ANYTHING we are told about such situations.

We were told that Iraq had NBC weapons and that they were funding anti-US terror groups and were going to give them these weapons.

This was all a lie. Based on those lies, we killed 500,000 Iraqis, destroyed their government leaving anarchy and civil war, destroyed their infrastructure, squandered a trillion dollars and killed or maimed around 20,000 of our own soldiers.

All for a lie.

And now the government tells us that Iran is going to build a nuke and attack us (or our proxy Israel) and that this person or that person is a terrorist and we can kill them without trial.

And some people insist on believing this.