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Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
50. "...we don't deserve a second chance." ???
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 04:54 AM
Nov 2013

This sounds like Koch Brothers' shills talking about the unemployed, the homeless, the mortgage-drowned, the hungry, the sick, the poor, the tens of thousands in prison for non-violent crimes, the lazy, the "good for nothing," the "welfare queens," the broken soldiers, the disabled, the elderly, and others who oughtn't to get Food Stamps or medical care or free education or any kind of help, who are "non-productive' or "failed human beings" who ought to be kicked off the island!

WHY don't we "deserve" a "second chance," hm?

It's that kind of thinking--cliche thinking, Old Testament-style condemnation--that will ensure that we don't summon the creativity, intelligence and determination--creativity, intelligence and determination that we are certainly capable of--to solve our planetary environmental problem.

Do you really want to consign all of humanity to eternal oblivion, like some Bible-thumping preacher? The whole human enterprise from beginning to end--with all of its effort, all of its beauty--is dismissible as not deserving of a second chance?

People who say "never gonna happen" are often proved wrong.

Will women be allowed to vote? Never gonna happen.
Will blacks be allowed to vote? Never gonna happen.
Will all workers pay into a common pension system to ensure an income for the elderly? Never gonna happen.
Can people fly in the sky? Never gonna happen.
Can electricity be harnessed and provided to every household? Never gonna happen.
Can an exploited colony successfully rebel against an empire? Never gonna happen.
Can a pathogen be used to inoculate people against the disease that the pathogen causes? Never gonna happen.
Will people ever walk on the moon? Never gonna happen.

On and on and on goes the list of things that somebody said are "never gonna happen" that, in fact, happened. Millions of "impossibilities" have been made possible; millions and millions of problems solved by human creativity, intelligence and determination.

I think you may be suffering from being inside of a dying democracy that, like Rome, has become an overstretched and rapacious empire, with extreme propaganda aimed at us every day about our "inability" to change anything. You have a jaded view. But looking just at our own history as a country and a people--let alone the history of other countries and peoples, and all that is happening in other places right now, and things that are happening here as well--and I mean ALL that is happening, not just what you get from the corporate propaganda media--there is much reason for hope. Human beings have an extraordinary capacity for innovation, and are amazingly adaptable. We also, as a characteristic, have a tremendous desire to cooperate, to help, to contribute to the common good. Who is to say that these positive qualities will not win out, or that, facing catastrophe, we will not rally to the crisis and find solutions that ensure human survival? We are very adept at creating second chances for ourselves!

Our beautiful planet evolved us. It is not a matter of "deserving" anything. The Old Testament is FICTION. There is no "Garden of Eden" that we got banned from, no "sin" that we are guilty of, no God pointing a finger at us and saying "You don't deserve this." What is happening now, on earth, is the development of consciousness of our planetary environment and of our place in the huge, huge, HUGE universe. We DON'T KNOW what will happen to us, nor what we may, collectively do, as this new consciousness develops. It is NOT predictable. It is open-ended. That is the human story--NOT predictable.


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good, because we've got to get out of this place maxsolomon Nov 2013 #1
Well, if the nearest possible inhabitable planet is only 12 light years away.. olddad56 Nov 2013 #5
I sure as hell don't wish that on the inhabitants of other worlds. Crunchy Frog Nov 2013 #12
Our sun will eventually go supernova maxsolomon Nov 2013 #39
Never gonna happen. Besides, if we wreck this place, we don't deserve a second chance. arcane1 Nov 2013 #28
If ? olddad56 Nov 2013 #34
Indeed! arcane1 Nov 2013 #48
"...we don't deserve a second chance." ??? Peace Patriot Nov 2013 #50
I'm an atheist, I don't need you to tell me the old testament is fiction. arcane1 Nov 2013 #54
You say you're an atheist yet you doom humanity... Peace Patriot Nov 2013 #60
What an absurd statement. I'm not dooming anyone, nor am I capable of doing so. arcane1 Nov 2013 #61
Sorry, each dominant species only gets one planet to destroy. Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #58
wonder how much longer Earth will be habitable. olddad56 Nov 2013 #2
At the rate corporations are despoiling the environment for financial gain, aided and abetted by indepat Nov 2013 #13
About another billion years or so... Humanist_Activist Nov 2013 #19
"Only 12 light years away" jberryhill Nov 2013 #3
So where is everybody? bananas Nov 2013 #4
No, I think many of the tea partiers might be from another planet. olddad56 Nov 2013 #8
Just because they're in the habitable zone doesn't mean they're habitable. OnlinePoker Nov 2013 #11
Yep. "Habitable" has a different meaning for scientists than for "normal people". Xithras Nov 2013 #57
Neil deGrasse Tyson Is Worried That Humans Are Too Stupid For Aliens progressoid Nov 2013 #14
I tend to think that is the problem .. It would be nice if they could help us out.. we need it. YOHABLO Nov 2013 #21
The opposite is also possible Scootaloo Nov 2013 #29
Indeed, our combination of intelligence, curiosity, and tool innovation are probably quite rare. arcane1 Nov 2013 #30
They moved out when we moved in... penultimate Nov 2013 #16
Depends on what you mean by everybody.... paleotn Nov 2013 #23
That's the Fermi Paradox Prophet 451 Nov 2013 #24
My closure of the Fermi Paradox is quite simple. GliderGuider Nov 2013 #32
It's a good solution Prophet 451 Nov 2013 #33
This is a great and fascinating post, but the Mediocrity Principle sounds like bullshit to me. arcane1 Nov 2013 #36
"it was a giant leap from "intelligent" life to industrial civilization" GliderGuider Nov 2013 #37
You made the leap, right there in your reply. arcane1 Nov 2013 #38
Intelligence is necessary but not sufficient. GliderGuider Nov 2013 #40
Where did this free energy come from? arcane1 Nov 2013 #41
Well, it comes from the sun. GliderGuider Nov 2013 #43
I have a feeling we agree more than we disagree. arcane1 Nov 2013 #45
Yes, I suspect so too! GliderGuider Nov 2013 #46
A toast, to whatever processes resulted in our good fortune to be here discussing said processes! arcane1 Nov 2013 #47
It wouldn't take much of a change for hydropower to have been the dominant power source muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #51
There is no intelligent life on those planets, just like Earth. hunter Nov 2013 #62
I hope so Politicalboi Nov 2013 #31
Fermi's paradox. n/t Comrade Grumpy Nov 2013 #56
They may already have life but not as we know it dipsydoodle Nov 2013 #6
we still have life, but not as we knew it before 2000. olddad56 Nov 2013 #9
I'd go back as far as 1980 and the "election" of Ronald Reagan. YOHABLO Nov 2013 #22
And no one calls.. denbot Nov 2013 #7
Would you call dipsydoodle Nov 2013 #10
Our system has 3 plants in the; greiner3 Nov 2013 #15
It's kind of a blurry definition. longship Nov 2013 #20
If any within a few dozen light years have modern life on them seveneyes Nov 2013 #17
If their technology level was much higher than ours they may use a different method ... spin Nov 2013 #25
One more data point in the Drake equation. longship Nov 2013 #18
Yes, Indeed ... Stuart G Nov 2013 #26
Do you suppose any have a population hell bent on self destruction. liberal N proud Nov 2013 #27
Hope there is intellegent life on one of them..... Rebellious Republican Nov 2013 #35
interesting gopiscrap Nov 2013 #42
20% percent of SUN-LIKE stars. Ash_F Nov 2013 #44
My favorite TV show said it all Rosco T. Nov 2013 #49
So maybe we CAN Cruise to the Galactic Federation on a DC 8. Kablooie Nov 2013 #52
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #53
god is one busy motherfucker! snooper2 Nov 2013 #55
But ... but ... Earth is the center of the universe and mankind is the sole focus of The Deity! Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #59
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