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7. Yes, the two bombs were needed to show we had them was a post bombing "fact".

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The reason we dropped two bombs was we had two bombs. One Uranium and one Plutonium. We had enough Plutonium to make two bombs by July 1945, we we shipped one and tested the other (we did NOT test the Uranium bomb for the scientists had more confidence in it going super critical, but they needed to test the Plutonium bomb to see if it would work).

The next Bomb would have been ready by the end of August and the plans was to drop it then (Through it appears Truman ordered the Stopping of all Atomic Bombing after he had received and read a letter from some church leaders deploying the lost of life AND several newspapers had compared Hiroshirma to various large US Cities). Given no Atomic Bombs were avaliabe till tne end of August, this quicly became a moot point with the Japanese Surrender of August 15th (offical Surrender on September 1, 1945).

Now there was a debate on how the bombs should be used after the first two. The plan being used in August 1945, was to bomb Japan with them as the bombs became available. An alternative plans was to hold them in reserve and use them at the same time of the invasion of Japan. The later was favored by the Commander of the Invasion, General Stillwell (who also planed to gas Tokyo, for neither the US nor Japan had signed the treaty to ban the use of Gas, AND Japan had used gas in China).

Japanese use of Gas in China:
http://chinajapan.org/articles/05.1/05.1wakabayashi4-10.pdf

http://www.scmp.com/article/244833/new-evidence-japan-gas-use

More on the Planned Invasion of Japan:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Downfall

Japan's plans of Defense:
http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/arens/chap4.htm

http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/war.term/olympic.html

https://www.cia.gov/library/center-for-the-study-of-intelligence/csi-publications/books-and-monographs/the-final-months-of-the-war-with-japan-signals-intelligence-u-s-invasion-planning-and-the-a-bomb-decision/

Here is a war Gaming Site on Operation Downfall:
http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/wars_downfall1.html
http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/wars_downfall2.html
http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/wars_downfall3.html
http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/wars_downfall4.html

Home page for the above site:
http://www.historyofwar.org/index.html

More on the Russian Invasion, Operation August Storm:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_August_Storm

US Decision to use Gas on Japan:
http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v16/v16n3p12_Weber.html

US Decision to drop the Atomic Bomb:
http://www.doug-long.com/debate.htm

More cites with reports from the time period as to use or non-use of the bomb:
http://www.doug-long.com/

http://www.dannen.com/decision/index.html

More on the decision to Surrender:
http://www.japanfocus.org/-Tsuyoshi-Hasegawa/2501

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2011/08/07/why_did_japan_surrender/

http://csis.org/blog/how-influential-were-atomic-bombings-hiroshima-and-nagasaki-japanese-decision-surrender

http://personal.ashland.edu/~jmoser1/japsurrender.htm

http://www.amazon.com/Japans-Decision-Surrender-Robert-Butow/dp/0804704600

http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/3641184?uid=3739864&uid=2&uid=4&uid=3739256&sid=21103063124437

http://warincontext.org/2013/05/31/stalin-not-the-bomb-made-japan-surrender-ending-ww2/

http://www.zcommunications.org/japans-surrender-decision-and-the-monarchy-by-herbert-bix.html


http://h-net.msu.edu/cgi-bin/logbrowse.pl?trx=vx&list=h-diplo&month=0007&week=d&msg=7K5bg/zFG7N/ht36DHZaMA&user=&pw=

Fear of a Communist Revolution in Japan:

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/07075332.2012.742450#.Up_Nd9JDvi4

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Starvation