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Igel

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11. Sure. It's been reported before.
Sat Mar 1, 2014, 01:53 PM
Mar 2014

And it makes sense.

Much of the technology involved is intellectual. You hire an engineer and you have to teach him the technology. It's part of his toolkit. It's the same with a lot of engineering practices.

Now, if you're a mechanical engineer and you take a patent with you (in your head, in your toolkit) and use it, you sell copies of a machine that people can see and say, "Ah, you've stolen my patent."

Try that with software. You move to another company with that patent or trade secret in your head and you can command big bucks, until you've shared the secret at the new place. Code's written, the technology's used, and unless it's clearly visible after compiling few will ever know about the patent or copyright infringement. Even if you uncompile the code, you're stuck having to pay people a lot of money to scrutinize and spot the infringement in the code.

Now consider something like Microsoft, which has a lot of people trying to find hooks into its software so make sure that their software is compatible with or can substitute for yours. Then it's not *copying* the code that can lead to problems, it's just knowing how the code works well enough to be able to interact with MS products, etc.

This, of course, includes when MS wants to pick up on competitors' secrets and outdo them or incorporate them.

Non-competition works best. It helps stability for a company's workforce, it reduces the temptation for an engineer to do something illegal for big $ and probably get away with it. It keeps MS from being pulled apart, but can also keep MS from easily pirating smaller products' lines as easily.

At the same time it's illegal. One of those cases where in principle you're against it, but you realize that the outcome is likely to be worse and lead to people jumping ship so they can say, "Hey, I got mine!"

I completely believe this. Not sure why but it rings "true" to me that it happened riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #1
I sat in a meeting where managers talked about ways to keep engineers from being poached.... groundloop Mar 2014 #2
Capitalism is only for the big dogs....the rest of us have no right to get our piece of the pie. loudsue Mar 2014 #3
+1 kristopher Mar 2014 #15
Same here. MannyGoldstein Mar 2014 #5
Even before the H1B visa program hootinholler Mar 2014 #4
Sure. It's been reported before. Igel Mar 2014 #11
Yes but the workers don't stand a chance then of being fairly compensated riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #13
Couldn't employers use non-competitor clauses in contracts? kristopher Mar 2014 #17
Non-compete agreements are common, at least in my field groundloop Mar 2014 #18
I'm not arguing against higher salaries kristopher Mar 2014 #20
Noncompetes are not enforced in California Sanity Claws Mar 2014 #23
Your story is all well and good (not).... sendero Mar 2014 #21
Count Me In BodieTown Mar 2014 #6
because, companies need engineers long enough to train their replacements in India... pragmatic_dem Mar 2014 #7
The best manager I ever worked for had a saying. Thor_MN Mar 2014 #8
saw this illegal crap first hand LittleGirl Mar 2014 #9
Another way they keep salaries down is make it taboo to reveal your salary to co-workers groundloop Mar 2014 #10
Of course adieu Mar 2014 #16
But, but... the Free Market! Invisible Hand! Job Creators! :sarcasm: n/t TygrBright Mar 2014 #12
Why haven't the workers in Hi-tech unionized? Crowman1979 Mar 2014 #14
Some engineers are represented, at Boeing for instance.... however groundloop Mar 2014 #19
I'm SO glad you asked that question! Demeter Mar 2014 #22
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