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Excelsyor

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72. Fact-checkers have agreed that your excuse for Kerry's behavior is wrong

Mon Mar 3, 2014, 02:59 PM

Mar 2014

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2013/sep/13/john-kerry/secretary-state-john-kerry-says-senator-he-opposed/
http://www.factcheck.org/2013/09/kerry-spins-his-record-on-iraq/

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Updated 2X: Kerry: US Considering Repercussions For Russia's 'Incredible Act Of Aggression' [View all] DonViejo Mar 2014 OP

a stunning, willful" choice to invade another country." You mean, like Iraq? loudsue Mar 2014 #1

+1,000!!! andlor Mar 2014 #4

my exact thoughts, and why we have lost the moral authority lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #6

Yes. Shut up, Kerry. You have no room to talk. eom truth2power Mar 2014 #7

Kerry speaks for the Obama administration. aquart Mar 2014 #76

Yes, I know. And?.... truth2power Mar 2014 #81

+1 jsr Mar 2014 #8

Yes like Iraq - where in January 2003, Kerry spoke out for "not rushing to war" karynnj Mar 2014 #10

Actually, that's true, karynnj. John Kerry has done a great deal at diplomacy since taking over loudsue Mar 2014 #14

Kerry has been consisently pushing diplomacy over war... YvonneCa Mar 2014 #58

Thank you. Russia is wrong to use military force in that situation. JDPriestly Mar 2014 #40

They have a treaty to allow access to their port. Why Syzygy Mar 2014 #51

In his speech yesterday, Obama acknowledged the right of the Russian government to its JDPriestly Mar 2014 #59

Not sure how they can access their base by "diplomacy". Geography is involved. Why Syzygy Mar 2014 #70

Kerry voted FOR.. sendero Mar 2014 #63

It was a trick vote designed to reel in clueless voters. aquart Mar 2014 #77

I agree... sendero Mar 2014 #80

Fact-checkers have agreed that your excuse for Kerry's behavior is wrong Excelsyor Mar 2014 #72

Politifact is rather biased with regards to Kerry karynnj Mar 2014 #73

Yes, thanks duh-bya for squandering whatever moral authority the US had. trusty elf Mar 2014 #11

That was my first reaction. Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #27

He should know. Bill76 Mar 2014 #38

He has ALWAYS been for diplomacy to avoid war if at all possible karynnj Mar 2014 #44

Kerry on Iraq ctsnowman Mar 2014 #55

Thank you! swilton Mar 2014 #61

Wow! Visa bans! Vlad is shaking in his boots 7962 Mar 2014 #2

Apparently, visa bans are an example of "going to the hilt" Bill76 Mar 2014 #3

Would you prefer drones, air attacks, boots on the ground? karynnj Mar 2014 #12

Stop jumping to conclusions. Bill76 Mar 2014 #24

What is your solution or idea of an effective response then? eom DonViejo Mar 2014 #26

No response whatsoever. Bill76 Mar 2014 #28

My excellent reasoning and critical thinking skills were greatly karynnj Mar 2014 #36

Absolutely. +10,000 nt okaawhatever Mar 2014 #45

For you, I recommend making comments with more substance then. Demit Mar 2014 #49

We only do that to people who can't shoot back. :-| n/t DeSwiss Mar 2014 #83

Stop invading or no Netflix for you!! n/t cosmicone Mar 2014 #18

A complete visa band for those who want to live in their amandabeech Mar 2014 #52

Thats a good point, considering the explosion of Russian millionaires & billionaires. 7962 Mar 2014 #64

Of course the Russian oligarchs could just turn Socchi amandabeech Mar 2014 #65

So what would you prefer? That we invade? Smash Moscow to rubble Arkana Mar 2014 #75

To me, this is the first of plays in an agenda. Much as with LGBT to demonstrate power and RKP5637 Mar 2014 #5

I'm sorry, I don't understand the connection with LGBT issues. Bill76 Mar 2014 #25

Yes, there is absolutely no direct connection. It is about power and control. n/t RKP5637 Mar 2014 #33

ah, we invaded Iraq, but when Russia went into Georgia, the fear of what we did in Iraq didn't stop lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #9

The question is whether economic pressure from the uS and Europe karynnj Mar 2014 #16

Kerry is a hypocrite cosmicone Mar 2014 #19

That's pretty rich... Splinter Cell Mar 2014 #32

Ironic, isn't it. n/t amandabeech Mar 2014 #53

Actually, smaller things, if combined, can put a squeeze on Russia-- TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #22

Perfect solution..... paleotn Mar 2014 #29

Or channeling General Buck Turdges... zeemike Mar 2014 #37

Ha!.... paleotn Mar 2014 #56

What alternative is there? Do you think the US could invade Russia and come out in one piece? JDPriestly Mar 2014 #41

We could 'help' breadbasket Ukraine do the trades with the EU they want (Russia doesn't want) Sunlei Mar 2014 #47

We probably will. JDPriestly Mar 2014 #60

I think we will too, along with all the EU members who are also Ukraines closest neighbor countries. Sunlei Mar 2014 #62

Ever notice how often people use "incredible" when they mean "amazing?" malthaussen Mar 2014 #13

Exactly! Russia has always been an imperialist entity. PaulRevere08 Mar 2014 #17

The Black Sea fleet is already based there.... paleotn Mar 2014 #31

Just like the US. Bill76 Mar 2014 #35

The Russians are supposedly building a big base at Novorossiysk amandabeech Mar 2014 #54

Yes, "incredible" is overworked. Bill76 Mar 2014 #34

Democratic process? another_liberal Mar 2014 #15

+1000000 n/t cosmicone Mar 2014 #20

Good point there jsr Mar 2014 #21

We Need To Pick Our Friends Carefully DallasNE Mar 2014 #23

Very good advice, Dallas, we should pick carefully indeed. another_liberal Mar 2014 #30

Good luck getting a response. SolutionisSolidarity Mar 2014 #39

As long as the mega-bankers and money fund managers . . . another_liberal Mar 2014 #42

I Was Thinking More About Our History Of Backing Despots DallasNE Mar 2014 #43

I see your point, we do have to be pragmatic . . . another_liberal Mar 2014 #48

lol Love it. ctsnowman Mar 2014 #57

“It’s really 19th century behavior in the twenty-first century,"said Kerry. He's right. Sunlei Mar 2014 #46

The Iraq invasion was in 2003 daleo Mar 2014 #66

Makes PERFECT sense actually durablend Mar 2014 #50

Considering Russia got nukes, the explosion American people might get to watch won't just be on LisaL Mar 2014 #67

North America and Europe would be obliterated Aerows Mar 2014 #69

I don't agree with getting involved Aerows Mar 2014 #68

And just how many bases in foreign lands does the US have? BlueInPhilly Mar 2014 #71

As long as we're not talking about war. Arkana Mar 2014 #74

I don't like his last threat. morningfog Mar 2014 #78

listening to Kerry bleat about invading other countries after his support for invading Iraq... mike_c Mar 2014 #79

Rhetoric aside, I'm sure the irony of his statements is not lost on Kerry. Arkana Mar 2014 #82

You think he cares? Nihil Mar 2014 #85

STFU! n/t DeSwiss Mar 2014 #84

Why is the US and EU sticking up for what is in actual fact a coup? arikara Mar 2014 #86