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icarusxat

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129. 52 is a little young in this day and age.

Wed Apr 23, 2014, 09:08 PM

Apr 2014

He went from a promising 160 IQ preteen to a barely coherent adult. So whenever I read about brain changes brought on by any drug I sit up and pay attention. I am also educated enough to know the difference between folk lore, propaganda, wishful thinking and a serious study even if it disagrees with what I have always thought. Like you, I come here to learn and not to preach, to share (as you obviously do, thanks again for the condolences) and, with any luck, find ways to help make a difference in finding positive change.

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Casual marijuana use linked to brain changes [View all] shawn703 Apr 2014 OP

Brain changes .... if this is true ... better than Brain damage .... MindMover Apr 2014 #1

smoking kind bud every day for forty years is gonna change something otherone Apr 2014 #2

For sure, and if you drank alcohol for 40 years .... MindMover Apr 2014 #4

Why do people justify one drug by saying another is worse? joeglow3 Apr 2014 #70

Probably because it is true ... MindMover Apr 2014 #71

Possibly it's because one is legal to do while the other is not... LanternWaste Apr 2014 #72

What does legality have anything to do with one drug being more destructive than another .... ? MindMover Apr 2014 #73

I agree.....if we are discussing legality joeglow3 Apr 2014 #74

Ok, so alcohol is more destructive to the human body than MJ ... MindMover Apr 2014 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author FarrenH Apr 2014 #88

Decades of research FarrenH Apr 2014 #89

Well said, and welcome to DU .... nt MindMover Apr 2014 #94

And all the subjects were evaluated as "normal" RainDog Apr 2014 #103

Yeah FarrenH Apr 2014 #105

I think it's good for both sides of this debate RainDog Apr 2014 #106

I do speak Afrikaans (as a second tongue) FarrenH Apr 2014 #107

interesting info RainDog Apr 2014 #108

Just a reply to this FarrenH Apr 2014 #140

Thank you. n/t bitchkitty Apr 2014 #113

I'm not sure hollowdweller Apr 2014 #111

:-) otherone Apr 2014 #112

You rock MindMover! Nightjock Apr 2014 #3

We all rock together ... just don't bogart that joint .... nt MindMover Apr 2014 #5

Loving People Every Day Also Causes Brain Changes billhicks76 Apr 2014 #15

Yeah, changes like Politicalboi Apr 2014 #6

Calmer, more appreciative of simple joys...yes, definitely brain changes. cheapdate Apr 2014 #7

I'll take pot any day over alcohol. n/t RKP5637 Apr 2014 #8

As an extra bonus... seabeckind Apr 2014 #9

That's what I thought SCVDem Apr 2014 #25

I rec'd your OP not because I agree with the study, but because I agree with this: scarletwoman Apr 2014 #10

This neffernin Apr 2014 #44

It changes culture too PTB... Booga booga! tridim Apr 2014 #11

Been a regular smoker for nearly 40 years.. mountain grammy Apr 2014 #12

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2014 #64

Actually, no. I quit several times for years because of kids, jobs, schedules, etc. mountain grammy Apr 2014 #67

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2014 #68

Figured you were, but us old lawbreakers get pretty defensive. mountain grammy Apr 2014 #69

not addictive is rght wilt the stilt Apr 2014 #81

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2014 #82

Well then, there you have it: pot is FAAAAR worse than alcohol. kestrel91316 Apr 2014 #13

did it say anything about the brain changes from demigoddess Apr 2014 #14

This reeks of bullshit and Gereman's comments are extremely apposite FarrenH Apr 2014 #16

+1x1000 tofuandbeer Apr 2014 #18

LaGuardia's team found the Fed's were lying when he was Gov. freebrew Apr 2014 #59

here's a link about that situation RainDog Apr 2014 #109

"areas you don't want change" WovenGems Apr 2014 #17

Unless it's that cheap $10/oz crap we used to buy across the border. Then maybe not. jtuck004 Apr 2014 #19

Obviously the solution Steerpike Apr 2014 #20

Indeed. WheelWalker Apr 2014 #24

More from our MSM of misinformation and propaganda 90-percent Apr 2014 #21

Dead on! The tabacco industry, also. emsimon33 Apr 2014 #45

How much did the booze industry pay for this shite study? tabasco Apr 2014 #22

DEA obxhead Apr 2014 #31

Well, duh.... that's why one does it. No shit Sherlock. WheelWalker Apr 2014 #23

Oddly enough, lots of people would insist that marijuana is harmless, hedgehog Apr 2014 #60

here's what the research says about itself RainDog Apr 2014 #78

All change is not harmful. All permanent change is not 'damage'. WheelWalker Apr 2014 #85

So this study is going to tell people who've been smoking pot since the 60s YOHABLO Apr 2014 #26

Liberals should be open-minded about this subject. ... JEFF9K Apr 2014 #27

Well, thanks for chming in, Mr. Helper ... tabasco Apr 2014 #34

Sounds like you are one who is not. JEFF9K Apr 2014 #56

I'm plenty open minded JackInGreen Apr 2014 #47

Openly accepting "poor research" isn't being open-minded ... JEFF9K Apr 2014 #57

What I'm saying is JackInGreen Apr 2014 #58

Effect only on "developing brains"? BigDemVoter Apr 2014 #28

smile don't worry be happy... Billy Budd Apr 2014 #29

+1 WheelWalker Apr 2014 #32

Follow the money, obxhead Apr 2014 #30

Isn't that the entire point of the stuff? Scootaloo Apr 2014 #33

reporting what we already know otherone Apr 2014 #50

don't let nothing happen to you... icarusxat Apr 2014 #35

I am very sorry for your loss. They_Live Apr 2014 #37

Brain development was stifled in his then 7th grade brain... icarusxat Apr 2014 #95

Blame the pot. Always!!!!111 tridim Apr 2014 #53

True icarusxat Apr 2014 #96

I had a similar experience with 2 close relatives ... JEFF9K Apr 2014 #65

Recent brain research icarusxat Apr 2014 #97

Do you have links to this research? RainDog Apr 2014 #120

That may be true, but is it a reason to criminalize it's use? Starboard Tack Apr 2014 #118

people say... RainDog Apr 2014 #121

The article cited here actually was peer reviewed. icarusxat Apr 2014 #124

I don't crave references RainDog Apr 2014 #126

"That's how people talk about such subjects..." icarusxat Apr 2014 #128

well RainDog Apr 2014 #131

Not quite certain how I have been misleading anyone... icarusxat Apr 2014 #134

how did your brother die? RainDog Apr 2014 #119

He died in a hospital after going in for a minor leg injury icarusxat Apr 2014 #123

I'm so sorry to hear. RainDog Apr 2014 #125

52 is a little young in this day and age. icarusxat Apr 2014 #129

I agree RainDog Apr 2014 #130

Totally agree with what you say here... icarusxat Apr 2014 #135

There's more research available on cannabis than many FDA-approved drugs RainDog Apr 2014 #136

More studies is not what I said... icarusxat Apr 2014 #137

pardon. I agree. I want to see more research RainDog Apr 2014 #138

The war's over, man. Iggo Apr 2014 #36

.... DeSwiss Apr 2014 #38

Daily meditation causes brain changes too. Jackpine Radical Apr 2014 #39

Life causes brain damage. tridim Apr 2014 #54

Gonna toke up tonight after reading this.. LW1977 Apr 2014 #40

I remember all the Reader's Digest articles citing a constant stream of studies showing all sorts of byronius Apr 2014 #41

Smoke weed and worship Satan. All hail the Dark Lord. cheapdate Apr 2014 #42

Anti pot story brought to you by alcohol companies, bars and other legal death dealers workinclasszero Apr 2014 #43

Don't forget the petroleum,cotton and logging industries.They made sure it became illegal in the 1st judesedit Apr 2014 #62

Thanks for the info workinclasszero Apr 2014 #91

DEA funding linked to reefer madness propaganda Fozzledick Apr 2014 #46

I'm sure it's possible that this is true. But it seems minor compared to the side effects of... DesertDiamond Apr 2014 #48

Another horse shit study DiverDave Apr 2014 #49

Saw this "study" mentioned on the snooze seabeckind Apr 2014 #51

Oh, in case you haven't seen them... seabeckind Apr 2014 #52

Voting Republican for 40 years rickyhall Apr 2014 #55

That's bs. Pot smokers miss less work, are more productive & get more promotions according to other judesedit Apr 2014 #61

any mind altering drug will change your brain Shivering Jemmy Apr 2014 #63

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2014 #66

I hear tazkcmo Apr 2014 #76

Is a shirt and tie good enough, or do I need a jacket too? jberryhill Apr 2014 #77

Well then, I'm glad I don't use it casually. CrispyQ Apr 2014 #79

I've heard it causes open-mindedness. GliderGuider Apr 2014 #80

I'm surprised that a mainstream outlet actually published Gerdeman's point, BlancheSplanchnik Apr 2014 #83

Bummer, man. leftyladyfrommo Apr 2014 #84

This study is questioned by a major science pub editor RainDog Apr 2014 #86

consuming cannabis makes you smarter! n/t wildbilln864 Apr 2014 #87

...and nicer. (n/t) Iggo Apr 2014 #93

and therefore the US gov should not provide cannabidiol to cancer patients wordpix Apr 2014 #90

The name of the college kind of intrigued me... jmowreader Apr 2014 #92

this isn't a very compelling study killbotfactory Apr 2014 #98

Got the discussion going though... icarusxat Apr 2014 #99

but this research itself notes it doesn't demonstrate causation RainDog Apr 2014 #100

and AMEN ... MindMover Apr 2014 #101

In other words RainDog Apr 2014 #122

I know quite a few Ted Nugent types I used to work with.,,,, 4bucksagallon Apr 2014 #102

which is why I put on a tux to get high arely staircase Apr 2014 #104

Its called the "I need Cheetos now" effect. zonkers Apr 2014 #110

"brain changes".. sendero Apr 2014 #114

as a neuroscientist for over 40 years, I can tell you this greymattermom Apr 2014 #115

+10000 sendero Apr 2014 #116

^^^ This WheelWalker Apr 2014 #117

+1000 nt Live and Learn Apr 2014 #139

This is just blatant misinformation/exaggeration and is what the prohibitionists want ... MindMover Apr 2014 #127

Bull. Shit. ChairmanAgnostic Apr 2014 #132

This sort of reporting is intentional RainDog Apr 2014 #133