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291. Do you know what False Dichotomies are? a.k.a. False Binary Choices? You appear to be promoting

Thu Dec 22, 2011, 12:33 PM

Dec 2011

false "It *M*U*S*T* be either this ___________ or that _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ ." And that is almost never the case in reality.

False choices are almost always either the result of mistaking the language/words for things the words ONLY refer to, or USING the language/words to manipulate others into LIMITING their options.

The fact that Libertarians are trying to take over the Occupation, though NOT the whole valence of the Occupation, IS a significant fact. It has relevance to what is happening out there (I HAVE seen it with my own eyes) and pretending that it does not matter HURTS the entire effort at horizontal empowerment. Libertarians are intrinsically vertical -ists, NOT horizontal -ists. That doesn't mean honest Libertarians can't be a part of things; it means everyone needs to know and be honest with everyone else about what is going on around them.

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Occupy Denver disrupts vigil to honor homeless who have died, refuse to allow mayor to speak [View all] El Supremo Dec 2011 OP

Disgusting. Integral Dec 2011 #1

disturbing the peace and property? What are you talking about? lonestarnot Dec 2011 #16

There was some vandalization of stores in CA. pnwmom Dec 2011 #185

"This mayor evicted homeless people to die last night", said the linked article. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #22

KO had on one of the OWS in denver last night newspeak Dec 2011 #81

Yes, how dare they! kenfrequed Dec 2011 #87

Amen to that. We really need to write the paper that used deceptive language to report this... Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #135

do you have any idea how insulting your post is toward the Colorado Coalition for the Homeless Bodhi BloodWave Dec 2011 #173

who wanted the mayor there...the people who got bulldozed two nights prior? Slit Skirt Dec 2011 #221

as was mentioned in the reply title Bodhi BloodWave Dec 2011 #228

ha!! It is a right wing paper..they would do anything to dirty the name of occupy Slit Skirt Dec 2011 #239

The coalition Pres., etc., get their paychecks from donations... can't stop the money train txlibdem Dec 2011 #284

You have a really poor opinion of charitable organizations, don't you? randome Dec 2011 #294

Right Wing Paper??? Tonyvee333 Jan 2012 #353

Wouldn't the Colorado Coalition for the Homeless want to have been there Maraya1969 Dec 2011 #342

Excellent point Bully Taw Dec 2011 #224

This was a message to the mayor.... Slit Skirt Dec 2011 #286

Yeah, and look where this stunt got you. randome Dec 2011 #293

It only pissed off UNINFORMED idiots Slit Skirt Dec 2011 #298

So all the people on this thread who disagree with you are 'uninformed idiots'. randome Dec 2011 #301

Give me your ideas randome... Slit Skirt Dec 2011 #304

I have stated many times on other threads what I think will be effective. randome Dec 2011 #307

again one last time...they mic checked a mayor who is responsibe for Slit Skirt Dec 2011 #308

Those are all great things. randome Dec 2011 #312

this is my last post to you Slit Skirt Dec 2011 #322

Yes indeed Tonyvee333 Jan 2012 #354

I hope they silence every one of the mother fuckers 2pooped2pop Dec 2011 #251

You obviously miss the whole point of Occupy. nm rhett o rick Dec 2011 #313

i support Occupy in most they do... but considering what i just read tho, it seems this was not OD Bodhi BloodWave Dec 2011 #321

That is interesting. randome Dec 2011 #325

Obviously the mayor doesn't care about the Coalition except as a PR prop and he doesn't care about JackRiddler Dec 2011 #349

sigh of relief ... bless you! rtassi Dec 2011 #209

Damn. Thanks for posting that :( Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #323

great I see DU is seeking in the mud PatrynXX Dec 2011 #178

most of the people on this thread seemed to be totally misinformed about Occupy Denver and it's ugly Slit Skirt Dec 2011 #241

I stand with Occupy 2pooped2pop Dec 2011 #255

+1000 Fearless Dec 2011 #319

Post removed Post removed Dec 2011 #35

Ignore is back. roody Dec 2011 #52

Thanks - found it and deploying it . . . NOW (not on you ;) - n/t coalition_unwilling Dec 2011 #54

Why do people feel the need to announce the usage of the ignore function? joeglow3 Dec 2011 #77

Using the Ignore 'feature' in itself is childish, IMO. randome Dec 2011 #78

Utilizing the ignore list to avoid reading babbling nonsensical Puglover Dec 2011 #126

using alert is more childish than ignore PatrynXX Dec 2011 #179

+1 rtassi Dec 2011 #215

I imagine a thing may have many more uses LanternWaste Dec 2011 #315

I suppose I'm as susceptible to myopia as anyone. randome Dec 2011 #317

Or, a righteous response. Choose what you will. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #99

I like to post a youtube link unionworks Dec 2011 #174

Bingo n/t 2pooped2pop Dec 2011 #258

Never been an occupy fan, eh? Raster Dec 2011 #43

Uh yeah, you've never been a fan....As to the 'disturbing the peace and issues with SammyWinstonJack Dec 2011 #56

Right you are, Sammy WInston Jack. How is it that arrests for white collar crime truedelphi Dec 2011 #144

your sixth post --- will mirror limbaugh and hannity and all the CO RW blowhards certainot Dec 2011 #65

Exactly. FedUp_Queer Dec 2011 #85

What a nasty uninformed comment. Burgman Dec 2011 #168

what property EXACTLY are you referring to....and peace??? Slit Skirt Dec 2011 #201

Welcome to DU.... Pachamama Dec 2011 #202

U might be anti Occupy 2pooped2pop Dec 2011 #249

your concern is noted mitchtv Dec 2011 #324

Not smart. elleng Dec 2011 #2

This kind of reminds me of a spoiled child. Integral Dec 2011 #3

Really. A spoiled child. lonestarnot Dec 2011 #17

You remind me of the 1% -n/t coalition_unwilling Dec 2011 #37

true the Mayor thru a fit... PatrynXX Dec 2011 #180

That would certainly apply to the Mayor, 'Pay attention to me now and forget I threw sabrina 1 Dec 2011 #191

two things Bodhi BloodWave Dec 2011 #195

right that is why he bulldozed all of their things two nights earlier Slit Skirt Dec 2011 #223

are you saying that Occupy Denver is a group of homeless? Bodhi BloodWave Dec 2011 #229

when you take away some one's shelter..they don't have any....duh Slit Skirt Dec 2011 #238

the mayor IS dealing with the homeless? what are you basing this on? Slit Skirt Dec 2011 #242

May we throw fits all over this fucking country then! 2pooped2pop Dec 2011 #260

Not nearly as pretty as the photo op they disrupted, I am sure. quakerboy Dec 2011 #136

Gotcha, but even so, elleng Dec 2011 #145

bad idea to disrupt a photo op? PatrynXX Dec 2011 #181

no, bad idea to disrupt a vigil arranged by the Colorado Coalition for the Homeless nt Bodhi BloodWave Dec 2011 #186

It wasn't a photo op, and it wasn't arranged for the mayor Yo_Mama Dec 2011 #220

Comparing Occupiers to Fred Phelps ilk 2pooped2pop Dec 2011 #262

Kicked and Recommended. a la izquierda Dec 2011 #4

Congrats morons, way to give the right wingers ammunition. alp227 Dec 2011 #5

Appears some taking up the cause on this thread. lonestarnot Dec 2011 #18

think DU is helping out enough with that PatrynXX Dec 2011 #182

hey....the hypocrisy needs to be pointed out since he bulldozed the homeless two nights before Slit Skirt Dec 2011 #219

yes, we should all sit on our keyboarding hands and take no 2pooped2pop Dec 2011 #270

+1 ellisonz Dec 2011 #326

Don't you fucking love the way they phrase the news to present something different from what it is? Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #6

Most of the homeless in Denver are no part of the Occupy Movement. n/m El Supremo Dec 2011 #7

There are a lot of homeless in Denver? Why isn't this amazing mayor helping them? Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #100

Maybe he is. How many homeless shelters are there in Denver? Any idea? randome Dec 2011 #103

Denver has about 20 homeless shelters. intheflow Dec 2011 #110

Denver is considered temperate? quakerboy Dec 2011 #140

It is pretty moderate. intheflow Dec 2011 #332

That supprises me quakerboy Dec 2011 #340

Because he's a greedy asshole who doesn't care? I'm just guessing here. :) Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #259

Which means that the ones who are should be evicted into the cold, with nowhere to go? quakerboy Dec 2011 #141

How Would You Know???? otohara Dec 2011 #208

how would you know that?? Have you been down there? Slit Skirt Dec 2011 #240

You are really trying hard, huh? Do you ever take a break? nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #257

they are part of the 99% and are taken care of by the occupiers. n/t 2pooped2pop Dec 2011 #263

+1 billion Remember Me Dec 2011 #10

Thank you. I agree. We should first look closely at what the situation was. However, I am guilty Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #133

thank you very much! Slit Skirt Dec 2011 #243

Exactly right. The media is part of the right wing propaganda machine Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #256

"This mayor evicted homeless people to die last night" Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #20

EXACTLY! That's what pisses me off. They crucify a movement for doing something correctly - why Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #121

That is why it is a strategic blunder. MilesColtrane Dec 2011 #76

Who owns the MSM? daleanime Dec 2011 #86

True, but with all the damage the Repukes have done, why are we crucifying an entire movement for Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #120

I see few crucifying the movement. randome Dec 2011 #122

What they did wasn't dumb. What the media did is unconscionable. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #134

What the media did? I don't see anything in the article that isn't true. randome Dec 2011 #137

This is PRECISELY the reason Americans do not protest, do not get angry, and generally remain mute Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #146

Why are the homeless 'incidental'? The mayor is the one in charge of that eviction. sabrina 1 Dec 2011 #193

Irrelevant quakerboy Dec 2011 #142

You've pretty much summed it up. Thank you. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #151

Well put. nm rhett o rick Dec 2011 #161

They were shouting down the mayor. nm rhett o rick Dec 2011 #154

Why live in terror that the media might interpret everything? Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #253

I believe they attended the service 2pooped2pop Dec 2011 #265

"Bad headlines" come no matter what the Left does. So they might as well Remember Me Dec 2011 #290

I get that from some Dubbed movies PatrynXX Dec 2011 #183

Yup, that's pretty much it. nt Sarah Ibarruri Dec 2011 #250

Any asshole mayor can blow hard at some trumped up memorial. Magoo48 Dec 2011 #8

That he did so, so very shortly after AGAIN brutally attacking #Occupy, reeks of entrapment. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #12

I looked a bit more into the city of denver and the homelessness situation and came across this Bodhi BloodWave Dec 2011 #189

so you found an article that defends your position. Slit Skirt Dec 2011 #245

Good on them for even trying, but why were there homeless taken in by the #Occupation Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #247

I would say 2pooped2pop Dec 2011 #267

I wonder whose buddies are getting government money 2pooped2pop Dec 2011 #271

so a memorial/vigil that has happened anually for 22 years is 'trumped up' Bodhi BloodWave Dec 2011 #66

Why did they die? n/t 2pooped2pop Dec 2011 #268

going by the article Bodhi BloodWave Dec 2011 #309

If they truly wanted to honor them, the city would use its resources to feed and shelter the Magoo48 Dec 2011 #344

This wasn't organized by the city but by the Colorado Coalition for the Homeless Bodhi BloodWave Dec 2011 #345

But that is your guess treestar Dec 2011 #92

More anti-OWS bullsh*t from DU's critical thinkers... Earth_First Dec 2011 #9

+10K! lonestarnot Dec 2011 #19

Yeppers. EFerrari Dec 2011 #38

If you're not willing to pursue a strategy that will get the results you want, then you're... CBHagman Dec 2011 #41

+10000000! SammyWinstonJack Dec 2011 #57

Most of TPTB could care less about the homeless Irishonly Dec 2011 #63

Thank you Earthfirst...exactly what I was thinking.... prairierose Dec 2011 #71

Yeah. Those fuckers from the Colorado Coalition for the Homeless caused this joeglow3 Dec 2011 #79

mourning family members? 2pooped2pop Dec 2011 #272

Are you hard of reading? joeglow3 Dec 2011 #275

your info is still from this rightwing media source 2pooped2pop Dec 2011 #282

I found this post from a Denver occupier who was there: pinboy3niner Dec 2011 #288

Translation: They are dickheads on par with Westboro joeglow3 Dec 2011 #314

AMEN! FedUp_Queer Dec 2011 #88

It smells fishy... Javaman Dec 2011 #138

Occupy Denver Isn't Going Away otohara Dec 2011 #153

Go Occupy Denver 2pooped2pop Dec 2011 #273

albeit I am tempted PatrynXX Dec 2011 #184

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++agree n/t 2pooped2pop Dec 2011 #269

Consider what that mayor did to the protesters, over and over: Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #11

Pisspoor post, Great replies bottom line Dec 2011 #25

Thank you for sharing this - Some here apparently needed a dash of cold water to wake up. nt 99th_Monkey Dec 2011 #29

I bet those mourning family members feel much better. joeglow3 Dec 2011 #80

I feel for those who have passed, and grant them their righteous time. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #98

'Occupy will not stand for hypocrites'. randome Dec 2011 #102

I understand what you are saying, but... joeglow3 Dec 2011 #111

I do not speak for #Occupy Denver or for #Occupy in general. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #113

I suspect that quakerboy Dec 2011 #214

i was in CO when it got started- the local radio blowhards were great cheerleaders for police and certainot Dec 2011 #69

So what the denver post it says or worse doesn't say should validate a statement like Occupy Denver lonestarnot Dec 2011 #13

Not good at all. emilyg Dec 2011 #14

What's not good? Occupy Denver, the Mayor, or the homeless, or the dead homeless? lonestarnot Dec 2011 #15

Disrupting a vigil. emilyg Dec 2011 #24

Sounds more like disrupting a soap box by a mayor who may have helped increase homelessness. lonestarnot Dec 2011 #45

Protests have no place at memorials nobodyspecial Dec 2011 #21

I can easily tell the difference between a Dem and rethug Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #23

You can't defend Occupiers doing this and condemn the Westboro church! alp227 Dec 2011 #26

Sure you can. They are not the same. Hissyspit Dec 2011 #27

Are you talking to me? nobodyspecial Dec 2011 #30

Yes, in agreement! :) alp227 Dec 2011 #32

You truly believe Westboro protesting the dead and #Occupy protesting the mayor's brutality Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #115

Yes, it's rude and classless either way. alp227 Dec 2011 #116

Rhetorical question: The mayor's repeated brutality and that night again kicking the camp's Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #117

The protesters were kicked out of the park. randome Dec 2011 #118

No they should not have kicked anyone out period. Bjorn Against Dec 2011 #188

"God hates dead fags" is somehow the same as "This mayor is a massive hypocrite Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #128

Please at least consider that this was a set-up for the #Occupiers. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #33

Let me get something straight Bodhi BloodWave Dec 2011 #59

That he ordered =another= brutal clearing of the camp just before the vigil? Yes. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #105

'Brutal'? randome Dec 2011 #106

And considering its been anually for 22 years i'd think most of the occupy denver people would also Bodhi BloodWave Dec 2011 #124

With repeated brutalization and the outrage of again making the homeless, homeless Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #125

I think camping out in a public park still makes one homeless. randome Dec 2011 #127

Oh, I have no problem understanding their outrage, and i see the reasons for it Bodhi BloodWave Dec 2011 #139

I will conclude by saying...to a point. Sleaze must be called out lest it prosper greatly. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #150

I agree with that. CBHagman Dec 2011 #42

I agree completely..... backtomn Dec 2011 #143

Not even close to the same thing obamanut2012 Dec 2011 #44

Big fucking difference. Two cannot be equitably compared. lonestarnot Dec 2011 #46

Oh, nonsense. Daemonaquila Dec 2011 #50

Westboro protest the dead; #Occupy were protesting the mayor. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #114

Actually not really ProudToBeBlueInRhody Dec 2011 #205

There is a huge difference. Occupy was protesting against the mayor and not the homeless. rhett o rick Dec 2011 #148

I have zero problem with Occupy Denver pointing out that the mayor EFerrari Dec 2011 #39

Was it? Could it have been a feel good roody Dec 2011 #53

it was freezing cold newspeak Dec 2011 #82

Divide & conquer - I'm sure DHS is happy with your post 99th_Monkey Dec 2011 #28

good call Slit Skirt Dec 2011 #244

People may forget that the source of this article is Mainstream Media. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #31

But you can tell us whether there is adequate perspective on this, right? randome Dec 2011 #34

You're setting up a straw man in mis-characterizing Fire Walk's remarks. It's not coalition_unwilling Dec 2011 #36

'Special hatred' might have been too much. randome Dec 2011 #40

Always the excuse. Homeless never on anyone's fucking radar. What the hell does that mean? lonestarnot Dec 2011 #47

If you mean they SHOULD be on the radar, I agree with you. randome Dec 2011 #48

And what of the homeless, were they not the point of your objection? lonestarnot Dec 2011 #49

No. I have nothing against the homeless. randome Dec 2011 #51

Very good argument. truedelphi Dec 2011 #171

What is this mayor's history? roody Dec 2011 #55

I think that's up to Denver to decide. randome Dec 2011 #58

He is a Democrat, an African American and former city councilman hack89 Dec 2011 #68

And he's only been mayor since June, so I don't know who he has killed. kaiden Dec 2011 #89

he bulldozed their area two nights ago...bulldozed. Slit Skirt Dec 2011 #246

yes and it was HE that welcome george bush to speak in our fine city on what subject??? Slit Skirt Dec 2011 #200

He is a democrat in name only Slit Skirt Dec 2011 #222

And what about all those Democrats that voted for him? DINOs everyone? hack89 Dec 2011 #227

he ran as a democrat. he is a democrat in name only Slit Skirt Dec 2011 #237

They have withered away in Providence hack89 Dec 2011 #252

excuse me? all those places where there is no OWS... Slit Skirt Dec 2011 #285

OWS is not a widespread movement. hack89 Dec 2011 #320

What you really mean is that he is not as progressive as you want. hack89 Dec 2011 #254

I don't really think Occupy has pissed all over all the democrats 2pooped2pop Dec 2011 #274

"Sorry, the revolution is postponed because it is too cold" hack89 Dec 2011 #278

snort, that's just funny. n/t 2pooped2pop Dec 2011 #283

yeah baby Slit Skirt Dec 2011 #287

I'm sure FOX will have sulphurdunn Dec 2011 #60

How dare they interrupt the mayor's solemn tribute to the people he helped kill? n/t Ian David Dec 2011 #61

Please list the names of the people that mayor helped to kill. Ikonoklast Dec 2011 #107

Here Ian David Dec 2011 #108

There are reasons we have zoning laws. randome Dec 2011 #109

Are you saying that you do not support the Occupy movement? nm rhett o rick Dec 2011 #131

Please don't peddle that 'You are either with us or against us' crap. randome Dec 2011 #132

Sorry if I appear overly sensitive, but I hear enough of the right wing crapping on OWS. rhett o rick Dec 2011 #147

If you don't support Occupying you don't support Occupy. Bjorn Against Dec 2011 #190

I support OWS as far as it protests against the status quo. randome Dec 2011 #211

No, you don't, and you never have. Occulus Dec 2011 #333

And to answer your question about whether we disagree with aspects of Occupy... Bjorn Against Dec 2011 #192

And yet no one wants to answer my question. randome Dec 2011 #210

I just answered it... Bjorn Against Dec 2011 #230

I was hoping for a specific instance of what you disagree with. randome Dec 2011 #281

I disagree with the Ron Paul people who go there Bjorn Against Dec 2011 #297

Your own post with the subject 'If you don't support Occupying you don't support Occupy.' randome Dec 2011 #299

Not a single one of those posts matches your claim Bjorn Against Dec 2011 #328

If you mean I can't find those exact words you challenged me to find... randome Dec 2011 #338

I get what you are saying 2pooped2pop Dec 2011 #280

Fair enough regarding first amendment rights. randome Dec 2011 #295

I see no names of dead people killed by the mayor in that article. Ikonoklast Dec 2011 #112

FYI: Denver Post is a Right Haven paper. n/t Ian David Dec 2011 #62

There have been the occasional dumb thing done by occupiers, but that is no ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2011 #64

If George W. Bush headlined a memorial service for the dead Iraqi children that he helped kill Lyric Dec 2011 #67

"Hancock pleaded with them to show civility ..." KansDem Dec 2011 #70

A lot more Democrats voted for Hancock than turned out to support OWS hack89 Dec 2011 #90

Didn't attack the Democratic mayor KansDem Dec 2011 #95

Ok - sorry. nt hack89 Dec 2011 #96

Yep. And the mayor was laughing in their faces just like Bush or Reagan, mocking. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2011 #119

They became a liability to the movement the minute EC Dec 2011 #72

Oh I guess the mayor JEB Dec 2011 #73

Who the hell killed anyone? randome Dec 2011 #75

so, why do it in the middle of the night newspeak Dec 2011 #83

That's when most of the evictions have happened. randome Dec 2011 #93

Nice straw man. JEB Dec 2011 #97

No 'straw man' intended. I see I misinterpreted your post. randome Dec 2011 #101

Perhaps the mayor should JEB Dec 2011 #236

Uniformed posters voicing disdain for OCer"s??? GoldenOldie Dec 2011 #74

maybe not the best way to register discontent paulk Dec 2011 #84

Mayor = Hypocrite SalviaBlue Dec 2011 #91

Putting the word "occupy" in their name probably turned off lots of people. creeksneakers2 Dec 2011 #94

There are Libertarians in the Occupys who don't give a shit about the homeless. patrice Dec 2011 #104

So you also are against the Occupy movement? nm rhett o rick Dec 2011 #130

You know, that's PISS POOR logic. Why aren't you too embarassed to post something like that? patrice Dec 2011 #248

Wait a min. You are the one pointing out their are Libertarians in the trail mix. rhett o rick Dec 2011 #289

Do you know what False Dichotomies are? a.k.a. False Binary Choices? You appear to be promoting patrice Dec 2011 #291

Wow. What a misunderstanding. randome Dec 2011 #292

And I ask you again, what would you have them do? nm rhett o rick Dec 2011 #310

If OWS *was* in the streets you'd be pissing on them about traffic jams. Occulus Dec 2011 #334

Wrong again. randome Dec 2011 #337

But they are in the minority and were probably not the ones protesting Bjorn Against Dec 2011 #194

The hypocrite mayor retreated, the vigil continued. Iggo Dec 2011 #123

Occupy is fighting the fascist take-over and deserve our support. rhett o rick Dec 2011 #129

I disagree. Clearing the living homeless to laud the dead homeless is sick. McCamy Taylor Dec 2011 #149

MSE! MotherPetrie Dec 2011 #170

Why do we have a problem with what Occupy did here? stevenleser Dec 2011 #152

Try reading the entire thread. randome Dec 2011 #156

yeah, just make sure you ignore this one fascisthunter Dec 2011 #158

Wrong on both counts. randome Dec 2011 #160

I read the whole thread. I don't think Occupy did anything wrong. nt stevenleser Dec 2011 #166

Your opinion is fine by me. randome Dec 2011 #176

I have seen many of your posts and you have consistently opposed occupations Bjorn Against Dec 2011 #196

'Occupy' is a dumb name. randome Dec 2011 #206

So you admit you oppose Occupy Bjorn Against Dec 2011 #232

I will glady stand for the ideals OWS originally stood for. randome Dec 2011 #266

You do realize how Occupy started don't you? Bjorn Against Dec 2011 #327

Why would the original intent matter here? randome Dec 2011 #339

"I have never bashed OWS. I am in favor of OWS." Occulus Dec 2011 #335

'Pissing on OWS'? randome Dec 2011 #336

hey look.... another anti-populist divisive hit-piece fascisthunter Dec 2011 #155

Apparently OWS was booed by people at the vigil. randome Dec 2011 #157

well, that oughta give you some hope, right? fascisthunter Dec 2011 #159

It's a sad state when DU'er's use the same talking points as the right to shout down OWS. nm rhett o rick Dec 2011 #162

I believe it was OWS doing the shouting at the vigil. randome Dec 2011 #163

I dont think everything they do is golden, but I also dont look for every opportunity rhett o rick Dec 2011 #165

This isn't the kind of publicity we need. ... Deep13 Dec 2011 #164

So an MSM paper (and a right-leaning one at that) says nasty things about OWS, and you guys all Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2011 #167

Not all of us, thank goodness. Lyric Dec 2011 #172

right on Lydia Slit Skirt Dec 2011 #204

"you guys all" Deep13 Dec 2011 #216

What in the fuckng hell good does a vigil honoring dead homeless people do? MotherPetrie Dec 2011 #169

why don't you ask the Colorado Coalition for the Homeless who have been arranging the vigil? Bodhi BloodWave Dec 2011 #175

It's up to people in Denver to decide this. randome Dec 2011 #177

What a heartless question. What the vigil does is remind people pnwmom Dec 2011 #187

this is about a Mayor and governor Slit Skirt Dec 2011 #203

No, it's about the friends and families of the deceased. pnwmom Dec 2011 #213

The Denver post is a right wing rag Slit Skirt Dec 2011 #218

EVERYBODY is a friend or family member of a deceased person, homeless or not. MotherPetrie Dec 2011 #279

BINGO. Vigils are nothing but photo ops. They sure don't help dead homeless people. MotherPetrie Dec 2011 #276

What good does remembering dead homeless people do? They are DEAD. MotherPetrie Dec 2011 #277

So you think that funerals should be abolished, too, huh? randome Dec 2011 #296

They mic checked the mayor...he deserved it since he is a big part of the problem with the Slit Skirt Dec 2011 #300

'In case you haven't noticed'? randome Dec 2011 #302

you are ridiculous Slit Skirt Dec 2011 #303

No mayor is going to let one group take over a public park. randome Dec 2011 #305

you don't even know what you are talking about Slit Skirt Dec 2011 #197

OWS is still very relevant - stormpilot Dec 2011 #198

So you think the Occupy Movement has outlived its relevancy? Pachamama Dec 2011 #199

Why? So some fucker can pay lip service to people he couldn't care about? Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2011 #207

A big minus one ooglymoogly Dec 2011 #212

Oh look. JoeyT Dec 2011 #217

The act of denying anyone the right of free speech... BadtotheboneBob Dec 2011 #225

More a matter of drowning hypocricy. Mayor is the one who chose to give up the speech or whatever lonestarnot Dec 2011 #226

"... or whatever he was pretending to care about." BadtotheboneBob Dec 2011 #231

He apparently didn't care about putting people on the street now why would he actually care about lonestarnot Dec 2011 #235

one could argue Bodhi BloodWave Dec 2011 #233

No one denied him the right to free speech Bjorn Against Dec 2011 #234

Oh, great idea. We all just start talking/yelling at each other at once... BadtotheboneBob Dec 2011 #261

No, but we should not allow the ruling class to dominate the discussion. Bjorn Against Dec 2011 #264

Since the Colorado Coalition for the Homeless wanted him to recite the names Bodhi BloodWave Dec 2011 #311

Don't try to tell me the mayor is not part of the ruling class. Bjorn Against Dec 2011 #329

you mean the 30 or so people who protested Bodhi BloodWave Dec 2011 #330

those with the pepper-spray, the water hoses and the mace cans wins the quick battle LanternWaste Dec 2011 #318

Post removed Post removed Dec 2011 #306

.. mdmc Dec 2011 #316

It's totally embarrassing for a city to have a vigil to honor homeless people who have died shraby Dec 2011 #331

http://www.nationalhomeless.org/ annabanana Dec 2011 #350

The night before they have a vigil to honor those who have died Maraya1969 Dec 2011 #341

The whole idea tama Dec 2011 #343

What exactly is utterly disgusting about remembering those who have died, and for families of those Bodhi BloodWave Dec 2011 #346

Why is anyone freezing to death on the streets of Denver? JackRiddler Dec 2011 #348

see #350 (above) . . . .n/t annabanana Dec 2011 #351

thanks tama Jan 2012 #352

So wait. One night the mayor destroys a shantytown that in part houses homeless people... JackRiddler Dec 2011 #347