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Jack Rabbit

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43. The first thing you have to know to understand the Ukrainian crisis is that there are no good guys
Fri May 2, 2014, 01:14 PM
May 2014

The Ukrainians are victims of global forces that want to swallow their nation. The international players here -- the US, the EU and Russia (i.e, Putin) -- do not have the least concern for Ukrainians. Putin is no different than the Romanovs; he's an imperialist who, like all imperialists, doesn't know how to read a map. While the map says "Ukraine" set off from by borders from Russia and other nations, Putin sees no borders and one big entity called "the Russian Empire." The industrialists and bankers who control the US and Europe are no different than Stalin; it is of no concern to them how many Ukrainians must starve or be enslaved to construct a new order based on all political power resting in their hands while a cult of personality permits no critique of tyranny.

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RT: Ghost Dog May 2014 #1
Putin needs to prevent these eastern cities from voting. joshcryer May 2014 #2
Post removed Post removed May 2014 #3
.......... Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #21
This boldness from Ukraine AnalystInParadise May 2014 #4
The promise of 17 billion works wonders. ballyhoo May 2014 #25
Agree Strelnikov_ May 2014 #33
Ukraine pilot killed in Sloviansk military operation jakeXT May 2014 #5
Ukraine says two killed when helicopters shot down in Slaviansk dipsydoodle May 2014 #6
Journalists seized muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #7
Kiev’s ‘punitive op’ in E. Ukraine irreparably severs Geneva accord – Kremlin dipsydoodle May 2014 #8
It is progressively getting impossible to ballyhoo May 2014 #24
Live updates from Kyiv / Kiev Post here dipsydoodle May 2014 #9
Ok. Ghost Dog May 2014 #11
How are they not insurgents? joshcryer May 2014 #14
They are militant peace activists. penultimate May 2014 #64
Shoot down helicopters and kill the pilots, you're an insurgent (nt) muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #18
What, are they still "protesters"? Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #29
Federalists is the term I've been hearing. ozone_man May 2014 #57
Not unprecedented... penultimate May 2014 #65
Would you prefer they use terrorists? Because that's already started. EmilyAnne May 2014 #30
Singular dipsydoodle May 2014 #39
So you had to go to a British tabloid because you knew RT would be dismissed? EmilyAnne May 2014 #40
Nope dipsydoodle May 2014 #41
"I don't share the negative views of a dozen or so others at most here on that subject." EX500rider May 2014 #47
The issue you mention dipsydoodle May 2014 #48
What issue? RT is either allowed in LBN or it isn't, which is it and why? EX500rider May 2014 #49
Like I said. dipsydoodle May 2014 #50
Yeah and my searched came up with "NO RT IN LBN" Am I wrong? EX500rider May 2014 #51
Not as a leading source ozone_man May 2014 #54
With more extreme Russian slant? EX500rider May 2014 #55
It's good to have several perspectives for balance ozone_man May 2014 #56
My Aljazeera link doesn't cut it it? lol nt EmilyAnne May 2014 #60
"It's good to have several perspectives for balance" EX500rider May 2014 #63
RT Live Updates Ghost Dog May 2014 #10
Seeing Geneva Convention type actions is rare these days jakeXT May 2014 #12
Yeah, these fellows have zero interest in following the Geneva convention. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #22
The same guy ? /nt jakeXT May 2014 #23
Lots of journalist abductions, live updates: joshcryer May 2014 #13
Journalist released: joshcryer May 2014 #15
Just sit back and let the guys in Kiev make themselves really popular /nt jakeXT May 2014 #16
Taking journalists doesn't win anyone over. joshcryer May 2014 #17
I have no clue what is really going on, pangaia May 2014 #19
No one knows now. We are in 1984 ballyhoo May 2014 #28
The first thing you have to know to understand the Ukrainian crisis is that there are no good guys Jack Rabbit May 2014 #43
Ukrainian troops control half of rebel-held eastern city of Sloviansk joshcryer May 2014 #20
meanwhile in Odessa Bosonic May 2014 #26
And the cold fingers slowly creep in deeper.....nt Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #27
Pro-Ukrainians, pro-Russians clash in Odessa Bosonic May 2014 #31
I'm watching live. Scary stuff. Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #35
yup Bosonic May 2014 #36
I knew I should have checked one more time. Iterate May 2014 #38
Pro-Russian gunmen fire on protestors from rooftop. Iterate May 2014 #37
why would the pro-ukies march for unity of ukraine if they knew it would upset the pro-russians? penultimate May 2014 #66
'Many dead' in Ukraine offensive Bosonic May 2014 #32
.. Strelnikov_ May 2014 #34
Odessa pro-Ukraine crowd burning down pro-Russian HQ Bosonic May 2014 #42
and no police in sight taking any action. dipsydoodle May 2014 #44
too bad Bosonic May 2014 #45
Pro-Russians Removed From Trade Union In Odessa Iterate May 2014 #52
You crack me up. joshcryer May 2014 #58
38 people killed in building fire in Ukraine's southern city of Odessa Bosonic May 2014 #53
Putin's ethnic divide begins now. joshcryer May 2014 #59
Fighting starts again near bridge in Andreyevka Bosonic May 2014 #46
Sounds like Ukraine is kicking those Russians, Putin sent, out of their country. Sunlei May 2014 #61
Two Ukraine servicemen killed in Slaviansk muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #62
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