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83. I have not heard Warren speak of equality and I specifically look forward to hearing her speak of

Thu Jun 12, 2014, 07:01 PM

Jun 2014

how she remained a Republican during the Reagan era anti gay frenzy and the ensuing, ignorant refusal to admit to the AIDS crisis, she voted for those people and those policies. I have never heard her admit to being wrong nor speak of her own opinions about what her fellow Republicans were doing in her name at that time. It is conservative political baggage she carries as well. Sorry but she was part of the Republican Party during their most deadly bigotry and she has never spoken of that as yet. To get my vote, I need to know she is not still harboring that mentality and seeking that set of horrific policies. Her Reagan caused undue suffering and death across the world with his hate. Clinton was so much better back then than the Party Warren was part of then that it is impossible to overstate. Reagan was a merchant of death, racist, homophobic and merciless. She supported him.

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Sounding snippish with Terry Gross is unfortunate. peacebird Jun 2014 #1

that is the real Hilary. ChairmanAgnostic Jun 2014 #13

This is why I don't think she can get elected if she does run. She just isn't Purveyor Jun 2014 #33

Unpleasant Sienna86 Jun 2014 #44

she has to be likable to the barest of majorities heaven05 Jun 2014 #69

Hillary's "likable enough," as Obama would say; she just doesn't know how to relate to people, which makes her a less than an ideal candidate. Gimme Elizabeth! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2014 #74

She is, unfortunately, supporting Clinton. nt awoke_in_2003 Jun 2014 #84

Supporting Hillary in running is not mutually exclusive to her running as well. All she said is she's not currently running . . . InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2014 #86

How do you support someone....and then run AGAINST them....that IS mutually exclusive... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #153

Not at all. You can support someone's running AND believe you are more qualified to run and give people a choice to decide for themselves ... InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2014 #157

she didn't couch the statement with "running" as you did..... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #159

Tell that to Obama; he said "NO" to running for President around the same time before the 2008 election as Elizabeth, and we know how that turned out... InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2014 #162

so when did Barack Obama and Elizabeth Warren become the same person? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #172

No one's disputing wat Elizabeth said-Im sure she's VERY sure (4 now) she's not running. Notice tho she didn't say "I will NEVER run in 2016". InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2014 #173

she is not couching the statement...that is YOU putting words in her mouth... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #174

Cudnt agree more; Elizabeth is, w/o a doubt, THE most sure-footed woman in politics today which is why she didn't say she would NEVER run... InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2014 #175

which is why you should believe her...she is getting P.O'd about people focussing on this issue VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #177

Elizabeth Warren, bein the wise, masterful politician she is, is not going 2 crumble 2 pressure & be annoyed into running, as you suggest, or doin anything else for that matter. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2014 #179

not even to your unmitigating power to annoy! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2014 #181

Peace be with you InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2014 #183

Yeah, that's why she got almost 18M votes the last time she ran. Beacool Jun 2014 #111

LOL eom BlueMTexpat Jun 2014 #125

Yep, and all are experts on Hillary. juajen Jun 2014 #143

Most of them haven't even met her. Beacool Jun 2014 #146

True, but... DeadLetterOffice Jun 2014 #47

snippish azureblue Jun 2014 #90

I am a woman, and not a sexist. My choice of adjective was based on her tone in the interview. peacebird Jun 2014 #92

Bullshit Evergreen Emerald Jun 2014 #106

Right bach at'cha. I am a strong woman, and I say snippish describes her tone. peacebird Jun 2014 #130

Have you ever described a man as snippy? Evergreen Emerald Jun 2014 #132

Remember 2000? Gore said that to Bush. Reporting from the NY Times Magazine: 24601 Jun 2014 #150

Yes, I described Mittens as bing snippy peacebird Jun 2014 #189

Gross asked a fair question. /nt Ash_F Jun 2014 #152

I have to say that Gross would not let it go . . . brush Jun 2014 #180

Oh boy your in trouble now. Last time snippy was used in an election it was Gore saying it to Bush Exultant Democracy Jun 2014 #184

"Snippish" for a woman to stand up for herself Evergreen Emerald Jun 2014 #105

Don't you know? It's the new "uppity". Beacool Jun 2014 #118

Again, NOT EVERY DESCRIPTION IS RELATED TO RACE OR GENDER. Sometimes snippy is just snippy peacebird Jun 2014 #131

The sexist descriptons are related to gender. Evergreen Emerald Jun 2014 #134

This......... Beacool Jun 2014 #139

Gore to Bush 2000 "'There's no need to get snippy about it," Found one easy. Exultant Democracy Jun 2014 #185

It is sexist. Ugly. And an attempt to minimize her. Evergreen Emerald Jun 2014 #186

First off I found an example easily disproving your thesis. Are you saying Gore was being sexist? Exultant Democracy Jun 2014 #187

Thought the same thing. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2014 #158

That's kind of the same Delphinus Jun 2014 #160

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2014 #182

Should have repeated the Benghazi comment: what difference does it make? question everything Jun 2014 #2

It could matter. If she evolved along the same lines of the US Population, probably not a big 24601 Jun 2014 #31

Yeah, but Obama was for marriage equality, then against it, then for it again. When asked about this Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #81

All I know is he wrote a piece in favor of same-sex unions way back in 1996. nomorenomore08 Jun 2014 #170

I agree. A better question would be what she did on the issue as senator. yurbud Jun 2014 #46

I'd be curious to know what she thought customerserviceguy Jun 2014 #79

I don't think that as a senator she would have done anything question everything Jun 2014 #96

After reading the story IMO it's a non-event groundloop Jun 2014 #3

It is a big event because it demonstrates Hillary's huge problem. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #14

Yes, campaigns need to be forward looking. For whatever reasons, Hillary's ability to look to the future is seriously hampered. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2014 #76

Thank you. LittleGirl Jun 2014 #89

Classic political response to real journos:The 5 D's of Dodgeball Divernan Jun 2014 #93

Bullshit juajen Jun 2014 #144

their wealthy right wing wal-mart friends speak volumes reddread Jun 2014 #145

David Brock and I are kinda laughing right now. nt msanthrope Jun 2014 #149

YES! And don't forget that Bill Clinton was instrumental in the deregulation of Wall Street... InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2014 #163

Thanks. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #171

and some people lagged behind the transformation. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2014 #4

She evolved alright. ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2014 #5

She did what election bound politicians do period azurnoir Jun 2014 #7

Except that Bill Clinton signed the Defense of Marriage Act/ JDPriestly Jun 2014 #15

I agree, but I seem to remember something about Elizabeth Warren saying that TrollBuster9090 Jun 2014 #21

you may want to cite those memories reddread Jun 2014 #23

Sure, but I'm aware that it won't stop people from blathering about how TrollBuster9090 Jun 2014 #35

or people from applying past experiences to the present reddread Jun 2014 #67

Elizabeth Warren will run if she has the support and feels she can win for Democrats. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #25

I beg to differ: Elizabeth WILL run if the grassroots DEMAND that she run. The momentum is already starting to build and we're well over 2 yrs out. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2014 #80

Hillary has also said she was finished with elected office. nt 7962 Jun 2014 #91

I'm not sure about Warren but... hollowdweller Jun 2014 #28

+1000 JDPriestly Jun 2014 #30

Sometimes you choose the lesser of two evils. Had he vetoed it and sent it back, the response could 24601 Jun 2014 #36

there is no way DOMA would have been ratified as an amendment Doctor_J Jun 2014 #164

I'm not convinced. In 1996, the national mood was quite different than it is now. The first state, 24601 Jun 2014 #169

So Clinton automatically attributes her husbands actions? joshcryer Jun 2014 #53

"That sounds rather patriarchal to me." - Yep. And it's just like the "dynasty" meme that says NYC Liberal Jun 2014 #64

That is not the point at all. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #66

Welcome to misogyny. joshcryer Jun 2014 #68

Monica Lewinsky? Beacool Jun 2014 #110

I'm not invoking Monica Lewinsky. That is hitting below the belt. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #115

How many posts have you written on an OP that has zero to do with Warren? Beacool Jun 2014 #116

Hillary is a corporate candidate. And this country is in a populist mood. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #123

Again, your opinion. Beacool Jun 2014 #137

That's the dishonesty caught in the answer. Loudly Jun 2014 #155

The truly evolved were for it before it was a popular choice marshall Jun 2014 #72

HC follow$ the campaign donor$ and focu$ group$, in that order. Divernan Jun 2014 #95

You nailed it. Hillary is an opportunist, plain and simple. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2014 #77

It didn't sound snippy to me... The Road Runner Jun 2014 #6

See my post #15. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #16

I'm thinking of getting a bumper sticker made that reads... Javaman Jun 2014 #136

+1 JDPriestly Jun 2014 #141

I'm With You DallasNE Jun 2014 #52

I didn't hear any snapping - just a creation of RW cosmicone Jun 2014 #8

See my post #15. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #17

She didn't sound snappy to me either. Who cares what your post #15 says. Demit Jun 2014 #37

well, Leme Jun 2014 #43

I was wondering that too... The Road Runner Jun 2014 #45

I didn't hear snippy either n/t FreeState Jun 2014 #107

sometimes one does not think of an issue in specific terms, until the situation changes Leme Jun 2014 #9

See my post # 15. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #18

"And she will be held to answer for Bill Clinton's decisions, like it or not" TrollBuster9090 Jun 2014 #24

It isn't a matter of cheap political points. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #34

Do you want a follower/triangulator/poll reader as president? Doctor_J Jun 2014 #165

I heard the interview, and Gross wanted to score points. "Snappy" is a mischaracterization. n/t Tarheel_Dem Jun 2014 #10

See my post # 15. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #26

Thank you!! Beacool Jun 2014 #138

"I'm going to say what I know, what I believe & let the chips fall" HC 5/2014 Sunlei Jun 2014 #11

Please see my post # 15. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #20

We need Mrs Warren to stay a Senator and hold on to that seat for several years. Sunlei Jun 2014 #54

Read my post 15. If Hillary tries to run, she will be running against the past. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #60

Thank you for this eloquent post. Utopian Leftist Jun 2014 #70

I have not heard Warren speak of equality and I specifically look forward to hearing her speak of Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #83

They are both in the 1%. 24601 Jun 2014 #154

Where's the snap? There was supposed to be an EARTHSHATTERING SNAP! TrollBuster9090 Jun 2014 #12

Please see my post 15. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #22

ho ho. Now the headline says--Hillary jabs at.... riversedge Jun 2014 #19

I'm going to go take a nap for 20 minutes. Wake me when they finally get around to the headline: TrollBuster9090 Jun 2014 #27

See my post # 15. JDPriestly Jun 2014 #29

please read post 15 groundloop Jun 2014 #100

please reread post 15 groundloop Jun 2014 #101

please re-reread post 15 groundloop Jun 2014 #102

please re-re-re-reread post 15 groundloop Jun 2014 #103

JD - I'd LOVE to have Warren run....but it just doesn't seem that she's going to this time groundloop Jun 2014 #104

BS. She didn't snap OKNancy Jun 2014 #32

No, she was clearly hysterical! Behind the Aegis Jun 2014 #38

LOL - I was going to make a crack OKNancy Jun 2014 #40

We are bad that way, you and me! LOL! Behind the Aegis Jun 2014 #41

I posted a picture of me on Facebook OKNancy Jun 2014 #42

I don't want to see the "#15" ever again! Cha Jun 2014 #133

That's what I was saying above, too. Obama, as a black male has had to straddle the opposition TrollBuster9090 Jun 2014 #56

If someone attacks her as being menopausal OKNancy Jun 2014 #59

To a group of people who think the female body can shut down ovulation in response to TrollBuster9090 Jun 2014 #61

+1 joshcryer Jun 2014 #65

Hillary said that in the past she worried too much. Beacool Jun 2014 #119

If she runs, the gloves will come off and more crap like the "article" will appear. Behind the Aegis Jun 2014 #120

She's not being held to the fire. Beacool Jun 2014 #121

Actually, this story was posted a few times in GD. Behind the Aegis Jun 2014 #122

I have no problem with her, or any other politician, having their feet held to the fire. Beacool Jun 2014 #167

Hey you. sheshe2 Jun 2014 #178

I listened to that interview while it was on the radio. murielm99 Jun 2014 #39

A politician can never answer "did you believe X before the public?" joshcryer Jun 2014 #48

Hillary is associated with the Cult that helped author Uganda's KILL THE GAYS bill; the Cult is blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #49

Is this the National Prayer Breakfast conspiracy? joshcryer Jun 2014 #50

Here: blkmusclmachine Jun 2014 #55

I heard it live just now! Hillary loses her cool with softballs from NPR's Terry Gross uhnope Jun 2014 #51

Four things PSPS Jun 2014 #57

Is uppity and snippy the same thing? eo MyNameGoesHere Jun 2014 #58

Amazing how people get piled-upon here for evolving and coming around on these issues. NYC Liberal Jun 2014 #62

Clinton is a special case. joshcryer Jun 2014 #63

NPR = "Nice Polite Republicans" johnfunk Jun 2014 #71

National Petroleum Radio reddread Jun 2014 #82

Gives a whole new meaning to the words "slick programming" johnfunk Jun 2014 #135

Warren is the new Kucinich cosmicone Jun 2014 #73

I think Warren is more electable than Kucinich. joshcryer Jun 2014 #78

Are you kidding? cosmicone Jun 2014 #109

Right, fair enough. joshcryer Jun 2014 #113

Free Republic - DU Beacool Jun 2014 #112

Better headline. elleng Jun 2014 #75

The comment section over at TPM.... DonViejo Jun 2014 #98

Yes. elleng Jun 2014 #99

But, but, it's Hillary. Beacool Jun 2014 #117

You obviously haven't read post #15! JNelson6563 Jun 2014 #129

There IS a difference between Bill and Hillary Clinton, you know, elleng Jun 2014 #140

no "two'fer" this time? reddread Jun 2014 #142

Oh I know! JNelson6563 Jun 2014 #156

I will give it to President Obama... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2014 #85

Actually he supported equality as State Senator, opposed it as Presidential candidate, then Bluenorthwest Jun 2014 #87

What's all this ''evolve shit'' homosexuals have been around since the beginning of time. YOHABLO Jun 2014 #88

''We have always been at war with EastAsia.'' DeSwiss Jun 2014 #94

I am gay and proudly support her. hrmjustin Jun 2014 #97

+1 nt Raphael Campos Jun 2014 #124

Ahhh, DU............ Beacool Jun 2014 #108

I hate to disagree with Terry Gross frazzled Jun 2014 #114

I heard the interview and I didn't think Hillary was snippy. Sancho Jun 2014 #126

I never "evolved" Skittles Jun 2014 #127

The diofference between Bill and Hill DonCoquixote Jun 2014 #128

I get it, the little woman is too emotional for you. Beacool Jun 2014 #147

not emotional DonCoquixote Jun 2014 #148

I think our next candidate should be someone who has always supported gay marriage. Ash_F Jun 2014 #151

I have read so many different headlines on this, and it is really interesting how a one word changes Justice Jun 2014 #161

I don't appreciate you confusing the two. William769 Jun 2014 #166

I'm LGBT, and most likely will not vote for Hillary in the primary. But, in the GE, Zorra Jun 2014 #168

Prairie Home Companion just had a little skit poking fun at both Terry Gross and Hillary for that. Hekate Jun 2014 #176

Rope-a-dope. Orsino Jun 2014 #188