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63. Lots of illegal guns and lax enforcement

Tue Jul 8, 2014, 10:13 PM

Jul 2014

looks like there is much the city of Chicago can do to enforce the existing gun laws. And the state needs to strengthen laws against the illegal use of guns.

placed much of the blame on lax gun laws, citing unenforced punishments for illegal gun possession.

Everyone asks me what the difference is between New York and Chicago and I can tell you quite simply: proliferation of firearms," he said today.

"There's a greater sanction for the gang members to lose that firearm from their gang than there is to go to jail," he said.

He said that during a chase, suspects in New York and Newark would throw away their weapons, but in Chicago they keep them and sometimes fire at police.

Besides the police and prosecutors actually doing their jobs, another solution is to quadruple the size of the ATF and have them crack down on illegal gun sales. Seems like a no brainer to me.

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More Than 60 Shot, 9 Dead in Chicago's Bloody Holiday Weekend [View all] hue Jul 2014 OP

Guns are handy. nt onehandle Jul 2014 #1

And gangs are bad. nt hack89 Jul 2014 #3

EVERYTHING to do with gangs. yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #26

And isn't Chicago the only city in the US that doesn't have a single gun store? Hmmm... pipoman Jul 2014 #2

Yes, because it is a known fact that mikeysnot Jul 2014 #5

Apparently they don't cause them.... pipoman Jul 2014 #8

tied into a pretzel. mikeysnot Jul 2014 #9

Either repeal the 2nd amendment or cease half-measure gun control efforts MosheFeingold Jul 2014 #70

In the "Wild West" most towns had a NO GUN policy. If you wanted to come in their town leave Vincardog Jul 2014 #77

Not true, IronGate Jul 2014 #80

I disagree however if even if true it shows that a town CAN ban the GUNS. Vincardog Jul 2014 #81

Not so much anymore, IronGate Jul 2014 #82

But when you have a jamzrockz Jul 2014 #6

Agreed pipoman Jul 2014 #7

improve inner city schools & end poverty, too wordpix Jul 2014 #18

improve inner city schools & end poverty, too yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #27

people will fix up their own places if they have job$ wordpix Jul 2014 #54

They don't need gun stores sharp_stick Jul 2014 #21

So these shootings are done by thieves, gangs and outlaws? pipoman Jul 2014 #53

Real hard to drive to the suburbs or Indiana. And something tells me gangs don't need receipts. Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2014 #23

An Illinois resident can't buy a gun in Indiana legally. .. pipoman Jul 2014 #24

I'll take straw buyers for a hundred, Alex. Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2014 #29

Wonder why there aren't many, many pipoman Jul 2014 #31

You must realize the south side of Chicago boarders on Indiana. mucifer Jul 2014 #51

And you must realize it is illegal for an Illinois resident to buy a gun pipoman Jul 2014 #52

They should make it illegal for Illinois residents to murder people. nt IronLionZion Jul 2014 #56

Yep, then proactively enforce it... pipoman Jul 2014 #59

Man!!! heaven05 Jul 2014 #4

Doubtfully few since owning a gun in Chicago is not legal pipoman Jul 2014 #10

Doubtful what? heaven05 Jul 2014 #11

Doubtful few legal gun owners were defending themselves. .. pipoman Jul 2014 #14

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #12

The gangbanging would be curbed by a proactive approach to drugs... pipoman Jul 2014 #16

Yes, the real root of this epic violence is the drug trade. No doubt. (nt) Inkfreak Jul 2014 #22

Let's go a bit deeper. The real root of this epic violence is drug prohibition. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2014 #30

Completely agree. (nt) Inkfreak Jul 2014 #37

gangs are a problem, true heaven05 Jul 2014 #20

Here's a least one. IronGate Jul 2014 #15

that's what I was trying heaven05 Jul 2014 #17

Not a DUer so much anymore apparently. ... pipoman Jul 2014 #25

Your source is the Daily Caller, a right wing site whose articles are reposted on Yahoo. alp227 Jul 2014 #36

Thanks for posting that link. IronGate Jul 2014 #38

thanks, could you please edit the Daily Caller/Yahoo link out of your post? alp227 Jul 2014 #39

Done. IronGate Jul 2014 #40

must be those fancy flash ads. i have adblock so yahoo news doesn't crash my browser. alp227 Jul 2014 #41

to the gun lovers we need more guns in chicago samsingh Jul 2014 #13

You really can't have much more gun control in Chicago when there is a complete ban on guns. yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #28

you can't really have less than just a few miles away CreekDog Jul 2014 #32

Well that is true yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #33

yes some of those places do CreekDog Jul 2014 #34

Maybe banning guns in those places may work too. yeoman6987 Jul 2014 #35

Maybe you would name those places... former9thward Jul 2014 #50

Gary, Indiana nt IronLionZion Jul 2014 #57

What about all the surrounding suburbs of Chicago who have less gun control? former9thward Jul 2014 #58

The outer suburbs sure don't. Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #69

82 in 84 hours JVS Jul 2014 #19

SWAT teams patrol Chicago�s streets after about 60 people shot during July 4 weekend jakeXT Jul 2014 #42

* Dig the Iris Dement lyrics in the comments section of that link ^ lunasun Jul 2014 #48

If only they'd had more guns, everyone would have been safe. Gungeoneer logic. valerief Jul 2014 #43

Pretty creepy, how satisfied the gun militants are with these Chicago tragedies. Paladin Jul 2014 #44

Not as creepy as spamming LBN with blood and gore hack89 Jul 2014 #45

another local link 11 killed in this link. Also I heard today up to 80 shot but no link for that # lunasun Jul 2014 #46

Not to worry. Just another military operation by the "well-regulated militia" tabasco Jul 2014 #47

I doubt few of the shooters could legally own guns hack89 Jul 2014 #55

LOL. tabasco Jul 2014 #60

Chicago police say it is a gang problem hack89 Jul 2014 #61

This is what the Chicago police are actually saying tabasco Jul 2014 #62

Lots of illegal guns and lax enforcement hack89 Jul 2014 #63

So it looks like me, you and the Police Superintendent agree. tabasco Jul 2014 #64

Proliferation of illegal firearms is the problem hack89 Jul 2014 #65

Ahh yes, such an easy problem to solve tabasco Jul 2014 #66

The problem is too many illegal guns hack89 Jul 2014 #67

You're making stuff up again. Is that all you can do? tabasco Jul 2014 #71

So what are your solutions to Chicago's problems hack89 Jul 2014 #72

People allowed to have bolt actions and shotguns tabasco Jul 2014 #73

Sounds like a national ban to me hack89 Jul 2014 #74

Hahahahaha! tabasco Jul 2014 #75

But you would ban all semi- automatic weapons, right? hack89 Jul 2014 #76

sounds like someone wants confiscation Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #78

This is why 82 people got shot Tetris_Iguana Jul 2014 #49

I was going to ask what's going on. sofa king Jul 2014 #68

Chicago police have been undermanned for sometime now.... Historic NY Jul 2014 #79