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30. Great response. Illustrates my reason for dismay and disquiet perfectly.

Mon Jul 21, 2014, 02:27 PM

Jul 2014

Forcing people into the binary of Putin or Kiev is acting like GWBush, "you're with us or against us."

I am opposed to the regime in Kiev AND Putin.

AND I don't see any benefit at all to the US saber rattling against Putin. It is scary and dangerous.

I highly recommend this thread, started by JackRiddler. He eloquently explains (far better than I can) why he does not support US policy on Ukraine, and how he is simultaneously not a supporter of Putin.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025267434 "Can we talk intelligently about Russia and Ukraine?"

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'What exactly are they trying to hide?' Obama says of Russia, Ukrainian rebels [View all] William769 Jul 2014 OP

What is USA trying to hide cosmicone Jul 2014 #1

Deflect, divert, whatabout whatabout whatabout. TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #2

Deflection is all they have right now. William769 Jul 2014 #4

They need a new tactic, this one's shopworn. TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #7

See post #5. William769 Jul 2014 #8

I have no clue what Abu Ghraib has to do with this. greatauntoftriplets Jul 2014 #12

To me thats someone in a rubber room throwing a rubber ball William769 Jul 2014 #15

Or pissing in the wind. greatauntoftriplets Jul 2014 #18

I don't mind if they do that. William769 Jul 2014 #19

Words have consequences. greatauntoftriplets Jul 2014 #21

Deflect, Divert, that's all you seem to have left. IronGate Jul 2014 #3

Really it wasn't in the media where were you sleeping.. Historic NY Jul 2014 #20

Quick! Putin's in trouble, bring up something embarrassing to the US! NT Adrahil Jul 2014 #33

Missing flight data recorders in ground zero, CIA planting evidence in Lockerbie ? jakeXT Jul 2014 #5

The deflection crew is out in full force today. William769 Jul 2014 #6

They sure are. IronGate Jul 2014 #9

That we never landed a man on the moon. William769 Jul 2014 #10

I just had one apologist take issue with me IronGate Jul 2014 #11

They need to look in a mirror. William769 Jul 2014 #13

I've often referred to him as Pootie Poot. greatauntoftriplets Jul 2014 #14

I believe I got that phrase from one of your posts. IronGate Jul 2014 #16

In that case, you're welcome. greatauntoftriplets Jul 2014 #17

The other common parody is "Putler." n/t Igel Jul 2014 #22

I like it. IronGate Jul 2014 #23

If there was one thing Dubya was good it, it was nicknames. zonkers Jul 2014 #37

I personally think that they are trying to hide something. Igel Jul 2014 #24

So it's not a younger guy from the Azov Batallion ? jakeXT Jul 2014 #25

Thanks for the really sad info. amandabeech Jul 2014 #27

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2014 #26

Why is the US supporting the fascist putsch in Ukraine? Dems to Win Jul 2014 #28

So you support the fascists Putin then? William769 Jul 2014 #29

Great response. Illustrates my reason for dismay and disquiet perfectly. Dems to Win Jul 2014 #30

Given your response it was the appropriate question. William769 Jul 2014 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author Dems to Win Jul 2014 #32

Whether you support U.S. policy in Ukraine is kind of beside the point. Adrahil Jul 2014 #34

Putin has blood on his hands... sheshe2 Jul 2014 #35

That my dear is perfect! William769 Jul 2014 #36

... sheshe2 Jul 2014 #38

That drawing (I can't bear to call it a cartoon), is so, so sad yet so perfect riderinthestorm Jul 2014 #39

I know what you mean, riderinthestorm. sheshe2 Jul 2014 #41

Putin is a weasel. His people should replace him with a real Leader. Sunlei Jul 2014 #40