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davidpdx

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61. Yes, post about Nuland and her cookies

Thu Jul 31, 2014, 02:49 AM

Jul 2014

Sorry I'm not taking that shit for a source. Maybe you should try to pawn that off on someone who gives shit.

They are making decisions for a sovereign nation. The US was criticised for doing the same with other countries. I see that German is trying to help and appreciate Merkel's idea, the problem is the person she is dealing with. He is the one that started this with the invasion of Crimea and he continues to do so now.

The "rebels" he and his country support continue to obstruct an investigation into what happened to an airplane and made it difficult for the victim's families to recover their lost love one's bodies. That is just absolutely assine. It is disrespectful to the victims and families who were on that flight.

So as to him negotiating peace, I don't buy it for a minute.

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Updated: Land for gas: secret German deal could end Ukraine crisis [View all] reorg Jul 2014 OP

I am sure albino65 Jul 2014 #1

Wait, didnt germany and russia try similar deals a few decades ago? cstanleytech Jul 2014 #2

I see you have read the comments under the article reorg Jul 2014 #3

How is this not like the Sudetenland/Czech land-for-peace deal closeupready Jul 2014 #5

those pushing for war are not the Russians reorg Jul 2014 #7

deep sea port in Sudetenland? KatyMan Jul 2014 #65

You do realize that Russia is the one who took Crimea and is making the Ukranian civil war possible? Adrahil Jul 2014 #66

because Russia is on the defensive Enrique Jul 2014 #55

I suggest some new glasses then because I didnt read the comments under it at all. nt cstanleytech Jul 2014 #47

Well, Germany attacked Poland, started WWII, and a few days later, the Soviet Union did so amandabeech Jul 2014 #11

neville chamberlain would be proud dembotoz Jul 2014 #4

The Man who Declared War on Germany and that was Neville Chamberlain. happyslug Jul 2014 #10

+1. nt bemildred Jul 2014 #15

happyslug Diclotican Jul 2014 #24

In 1936 Hitler had been told the French could drive him out of the Rhineland happyslug Jul 2014 #36

Great stuff! :) nt Javaman Jul 2014 #63

Well, that will freak some people out. nt bemildred Jul 2014 #6

Well, count me as one of the freaked out. amandabeech Jul 2014 #12

I don't think I believe it, yet, it smells of wishful thinking. bemildred Jul 2014 #14

I've canvassed the British papers, the Post, the NYT and Der Speigel (English) amandabeech Jul 2014 #16

well, it's probably reliable then reorg Jul 2014 #25

no place for "divvying-up" - hilarious reorg Jul 2014 #23

I could not agree with you less, amandabeech Jul 2014 #27

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #8

Are you flat out accusing Obama of being willing to assassinate these two? Benton D Struckcheon Jul 2014 #29

DU is sadly turning into an anti-American, anti-Democrat site. TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #30

Haven't been here in a long time. Benton D Struckcheon Jul 2014 #34

"Boy" Is that really what you want to call the president? Nt hack89 Jul 2014 #31

He's not an adult like Merkel and Putin are. TwilightGardener Jul 2014 #32

He is black. Ponder that. Nt hack89 Jul 2014 #33

Is the West (US) involved in this in ANY way? It ballyhoo Jul 2014 #9

Sounds pretty good to whom? Ukraine? amandabeech Jul 2014 #13

Crimea is now part of Russia. Russia ballyhoo Jul 2014 #17

Says Russia who invaded breaking just about every international law that applies. amandabeech Jul 2014 #18

There was a vote. Maybe you were gone for that. 96.8 % ballyhoo Jul 2014 #19

You've got to be kidding. amandabeech Jul 2014 #21

96.8% huh? Scootaloo Jul 2014 #38

IDK about that! After all, ice cream is so yummy! freshwest Jul 2014 #44

LOL, you must think North Koreans really vote 100% for their existing Parliament every time! NutmegYankee Jul 2014 #39

Of course they do! It's a landslide every time, I tell you! A landslide! Or a mudslide... nt freshwest Jul 2014 #43

Actually...I think they do. Xolodno Jul 2014 #49

the precedent was set by NATO reorg Jul 2014 #26

What troubles do you see for this going through? ballyhoo Jul 2014 #28

it would appear to me reorg Jul 2014 #48

I think exactly the same, with the push that direction by the West. Thanks. ballyhoo Jul 2014 #60

What treaty can you cite giving Crimea to Russia? NutmegYankee Jul 2014 #37

So Merkel is a Politician who learned the lesson Stalin taught Hitler in WWII happyslug Jul 2014 #20

Merkel is one smart lady. ballyhoo Jul 2014 #22

The Germans miscalculated by dumping nuclear power. joshcryer Jul 2014 #41

Merkel might agree with you here reorg Jul 2014 #50

I think you touched on something important there... Xolodno Jul 2014 #52

I don't like natural gas as a bridge energy source. joshcryer Jul 2014 #53

"Secret Deal to End Ukraine Crisis" (if this rumor is true), could stop the fighting in Ukraine JDPriestly Jul 2014 #35

It's an old Soviet base--probably used by the Czars, too. amandabeech Jul 2014 #40

Why would anyone believe this? BenFranklin99 Jul 2014 #42

It was reported elsewhere before reorg Jul 2014 #46

I believe it Enrique Jul 2014 #56

And some were wondering why we have Germany under US surveillance Cali_Democrat Jul 2014 #45

Not surprised. Xolodno Jul 2014 #51

Russia won't keep its part of the agreement kiranon Jul 2014 #54

that's what people said about the Syria deal Enrique Jul 2014 #57

That's so nice they are making decisions for another country davidpdx Jul 2014 #58

proposing peace talks is "making decisions for another country"? reorg Jul 2014 #59

Yes, post about Nuland and her cookies davidpdx Jul 2014 #61

I think you are not up to date regarding who reorg Jul 2014 #62

In before jamzrockz Jul 2014 #64