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54. My oath to the Constitution

Tue Sep 9, 2014, 03:39 PM

Sep 2014

I am not a Nationalist, don't really have time for it. But I took an oath (back when I was enlisted) and three Presidents (Bill Clinton, Shurb and President Obama) have all allowed our procedures to continue. Granted we had some scrutiny after Abu Ghraib, Bradley Manning, and now Snowden, but that just means we had to go back to the old days where we did a lot more of our stuff with enhanced security measures to not reveal to the public what we are doing. Kind of like the School of the Americas did for so many years.

I won't just say I was doing my job either, because that is a cop out, but I did what the law (as interpreted by the DOD) allowed us to do. It was not done in anger or hate, it was done because it needed to be done and we could do it. People want to warp it and make it this grand moral debate, it really isn't. We were told what we could and could not do, we did it. End of story.

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What kind of doctors would participate in such a blatant violation of the Hippocratic oath? nt Live and Learn Sep 2014 #1

My guess is their twitter name is Mengele kairos12 Sep 2014 #6

Those who are... ReRe Sep 2014 #7

Frist, Paul, Coburn and a few others. rug Sep 2014 #13

How horrible.. Are we beheading yet? OLDMADAM Sep 2014 #35

The doctors need to be prosecuted so that next time a doctor is directed to do rhett o rick Sep 2014 #2

Bush and his Junta Billy Budd Sep 2014 #15

That is dreaming. There is a code where Pres Obama can't bring harm to those in the "club". rhett o rick Sep 2014 #20

"psyco's" (sic)? candelista Sep 2014 #34

Thanks. rhett o rick Sep 2014 #37

They were never interested in getting information... 951-Riverside Sep 2014 #3

Now THAT... ReRe Sep 2014 #8

Different times, different people, names and geographical locations, but SOS. n/t RKP5637 Sep 2014 #12

Makes us proud, doesn't it? Gives a feeling of patriotic glee. arcane1 Sep 2014 #4

I am willing to bet that it wasn't always just to the point of death either. nt Live and Learn Sep 2014 #5

That's right... ReRe Sep 2014 #10

This will be a great recruiting device for IS, AQ, etc daleo Sep 2014 #9

Oh here we go again, people getting "sanctimonious" about torture... nt DRoseDARs Sep 2014 #11

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Sep 2014 #14

Wish I was shocked. K&R nt Mnemosyne Sep 2014 #16

Of course it was torture! We all saw the pictures from Abu Ghraib. daschess1987 Sep 2014 #17

Always knew this was happening and worse. Ash_F Sep 2014 #18

Isn't that against the law? Man from Pickens Sep 2014 #19

Yes, it is against the law Fortinbras Armstrong Sep 2014 #28

Meh AnalystInParadise Sep 2014 #21

Would you be bothered if these techniques CJCRANE Sep 2014 #27

big boy rules? What about the Constitution you swore to uphold? Lochloosa Sep 2014 #30

So you hold US law in contempt. You take Himmler, Torquemada and Lavrenti Beria as role models. Fortinbras Armstrong Sep 2014 #31

My opinion (and the opinion of the U.S. Army) AnalystInParadise Sep 2014 #38

That's an interesting point of view. nilesobek Sep 2014 #40

Already trained AnalystInParadise Sep 2014 #41

Already trained in torture? nilesobek Sep 2014 #43

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I really do get tired of the nazi comparisons Iamthetruth Sep 2014 #47

Well perhaps if you did not keep acting as the Nazis did Fortinbras Armstrong Sep 2014 #48

You're insulting Iamthetruth Sep 2014 #51

Weird AnalystInParadise Sep 2014 #53

I'm totally cool with that. nilesobek Sep 2014 #50

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MUST. LOOK. FORWARD. blkmusclmachine Sep 2014 #23

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Nazis torture. Enthusiast Sep 2014 #25

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A 3,600-page report detailing interrogation techniques and abuses BeyondGeography Sep 2014 #26

"We tortured some folks." SamKnause Sep 2014 #29

Now, now - don't get all "sanctimonious" derby378 Sep 2014 #36

And that's what scared patriots do. nilesobek Sep 2014 #39

And yet the propaganda continues. Deadbeat Republicans Sep 2014 #49

Sad that we let ourselves fall so far due to fear... deathrind Sep 2014 #57