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NickB79

(19,348 posts)
28. Your post illustrates how much water we waste in this country
Mon Sep 22, 2014, 09:15 PM
Sep 2014

1400 gallons a month, for a family of 4, gives almost 50 gallons per day. Each person gets 12 gallons of water per day.

In many parts of the world, that would be an amazingly large amount of water to use.

Here in the US, where we think it's our God-given right to water our lawns until they're emerald green, take 20-min showers every day, and run dishwashers and washing machines half-full on a daily basis, we gnash our teeth over such thoughts.

With climate change rapidly altering the planet's hydrological cycles, it's not too hard to see a day when there will be water shortages even in the Midwest. Hell, you don't even need a drought to have a water shortage, if the water gets warm enough: http://www.salon.com/2014/08/04/this_is_climate_change_ohios_water_crisis_was_a_manmade_disaster/

Over the weekend, 400,000 people in northwest Ohio were told that their tap water was no longer safe to drink, cook with or bathe in. Water at a treatment plant had tested positive for dangerously high levels of toxins. Residents were warned that microcystis, the bacteria behind the chaos, can cause skin rashes and burns, along with vomiting, diarrhea and liver problems. It’s been known to kill pets and livestock. And boiling water, officials added, only makes the problem worse. Life came, temporarily, to something of a standstill until 9 a.m. Monday when, after extra, precautionary delays, Toledo Mayor D. Michael Collins finally declared the water safe again.

Welcome to life — weird, chaotic, scary, disruptive — in a changing climate. The direct cause of Ohio’s water problems, according to city officials, was likely an algae bloom in Lake Erie. The cause of the algae bloom? In a word: Us.

The lake, the world’s largest freshwater system, has been increasingly overwhelmed by an influx of phosphorus: runoff from industrial agriculture and from urban sewage treatment plants. Meanwhile, summer has been becoming hotter and longer, conditions that promote the algae’s spread. An oft-cited study, published in 2013 in the journal Nature, found that those two factors combined are contributing to an increase in harmful algae blooms — a problem, the researchers added, that’s “only going to get worse.”


Enjoy washing your car. One day our grandchildren and great-grandchildren may think we were crazy for doing so.
If you think the costs of water are tough, try a dysentery or cholera epidemic! n/t TygrBright Sep 2014 #1
Ironic that this water problem is engineered by the same people who want to repeal the ACA Jack Rabbit Sep 2014 #4
How much does free water cost? FrodosPet Sep 2014 #34
I'm not trying to badmouth Detoit's water works Jack Rabbit Sep 2014 #41
I don't believe Mike Duggan is a Koch patsy trying to screw the citizens of Detroit FrodosPet Sep 2014 #45
LOL.....Really now? LovingA2andMI Sep 2014 #56
Yes, Mike Duggan is a Democrat FrodosPet Sep 2014 #62
Democrat huh LovingA2andMI Sep 2014 #70
Uh noes! He's a politician!!! OMG everyone panic!!!!!!!!!!!! FrodosPet Sep 2014 #79
Wait, WUT!?! politicat Sep 2014 #91
Exactly Aerows Sep 2014 #19
We subsidize school lunch, maybe need to subsidize water as well. Provide each house with jtuck004 Sep 2014 #2
we don't hve to susidize the water hollysmom Sep 2014 #29
Renters don't have to pay their own water? Recursion Sep 2014 #55
It is indeed a Michigan thing.... LovingA2andMI Sep 2014 #57
I don't know any renter in any state that pays water, it used to be such a small amount that it was hollysmom Sep 2014 #97
In DC you do. VA, too. Recursion Sep 2014 #98
Well, the judge can always arrange to take the profit motive OUT of it rocktivity Sep 2014 #3
The Detroit Sewer and Water department is a public agency FrodosPet Sep 2014 #9
However they are for profit bl968 Sep 2014 #61
That is incorrect FrodosPet Sep 2014 #63
Did the Great Lakes go dry while no one was looking? freshwest Sep 2014 #5
It's not the water that costs so much FrodosPet Sep 2014 #11
And it's not the water or the pay for said people maintaining the Aerows Sep 2014 #20
I wasn't seriously making a case against infrastructure spending, you know. freshwest Sep 2014 #32
I feel sorry for the people at DWSD FrodosPet Sep 2014 #37
As I said in one or the other replies, here, I support all public workers. freshwest Sep 2014 #38
It is all in-house FrodosPet Sep 2014 #42
Excellent. I also live in such a system. But some landlords turned over billing to private firms. freshwest Sep 2014 #46
People love to hate and fear Detroit FrodosPet Sep 2014 #49
That what taxes are for. Sivafae Sep 2014 #77
What is your position on usage caps? FrodosPet Sep 2014 #82
yeah, i was thinking about that Sivafae Sep 2014 #90
VICE did a story on this, if everyone watched what I posted they would be informed snooper2 Sep 2014 #78
Everybody hates the city I love FrodosPet Sep 2014 #80
I don't hate it, just being realistic...They need to have a massive relocation project snooper2 Sep 2014 #81
Well, I guess they can go down to river with a bucket then SpartanDem Sep 2014 #13
And create a public health care emergency in their community Aerows Sep 2014 #21
I wasn't actually making that case. I just feel that Detroit's dilemma is not the fault of the freshwest Sep 2014 #35
water water everywhere and not a drop to drink ... (nt) sunnystarr Sep 2014 #16
Not until it is treated, anyhow FrodosPet Sep 2014 #39
Dear Goddess. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #36
'America, meet your new landlords. The Kochs.' freshwest Sep 2014 #43
I know we will not get them all with our first pass in 2014. sheshe2 Sep 2014 #50
Are these deliquent customers still getting free water? valerief Sep 2014 #6
Absolutely! Earth_First Sep 2014 #25
Thank you for posting that valerie, sheshe2 Sep 2014 #30
Commercial customers HAVE been getting shut-off notices FrodosPet Sep 2014 #47
Why Yes, Indeed.... LovingA2andMI Sep 2014 #58
Looks like you have not done your homework FrodosPet Sep 2014 #66
Where's the PROOF this is happening..... LovingA2andMI Sep 2014 #69
They're sending mail. They're not turning off the mains. politicat Sep 2014 #92
Yep, no mention of them in the article. Cal Carpenter Sep 2014 #71
Maybe these fuckers could look into this theaocp Sep 2014 #7
Or this FrodosPet Sep 2014 #48
The Federal Government should pay for residential water and plumbing FrodosPet Sep 2014 #8
What a stupid idea Travis_0004 Sep 2014 #12
I'm just trying to figure out how to get everyone FREE water FrodosPet Sep 2014 #14
Give every household 1000 gallons free Travis_0004 Sep 2014 #24
In California, we had to ... aggiesal Sep 2014 #26
Your post illustrates how much water we waste in this country NickB79 Sep 2014 #28
Do you use only 12 gallons a day? Travis_0004 Sep 2014 #44
And I thought Bush was a fascist. nt Dreamer Tatum Sep 2014 #51
Only us corporations get the free water..... Dont call me Shirley Sep 2014 #10
That is incorrect FrodosPet Sep 2014 #52
That happened after they were getting lashed about it, by the public then the UN. Dont call me Shirley Sep 2014 #72
If they just plainly said, "We want poor people to die," they would be laughed out of court shenmue Sep 2014 #15
Who should pay the expenses to provide water? FrodosPet Sep 2014 #17
FEMA shenmue Sep 2014 #18
And will spiral into a larger Aerows Sep 2014 #22
It's a good thing that there are payment plans and assistance programs then FrodosPet Sep 2014 #27
You keep on posting about raw sewage. former9thward Sep 2014 #73
Do they pay for everyone's water? FrodosPet Sep 2014 #23
simple solution... Rewilding quadrature Sep 2014 #31
If these people can't pay their water bills, how are they going to pay their property taxes? n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2014 #33
I think this is predicament just a slice of the larger picture GitRDun Sep 2014 #40
I say raid the police pension fund! ncjustice80 Sep 2014 #53
Access to clean, safe drinking water is a basic human right. blkmusclmachine Sep 2014 #54
According to the World Health Organization FrodosPet Sep 2014 #65
Canada used to be world renowned for high quality public utilities, water, gas, electricity, Monk06 Sep 2014 #59
The Detroit Water and Sewerage Department is a branch of the City of Detroit government. FrodosPet Sep 2014 #64
My understanding is that the bankruptsy proceedings have put an appointed City Manager in charge Monk06 Sep 2014 #67
Your understanding is wrong. former9thward Sep 2014 #74
Missed the existence of the mayor. I thought a state appointed city manager was in charge. Monk06 Sep 2014 #94
A new Mayor was elected and took over water this summer. former9thward Sep 2014 #95
The problem is bl968 Sep 2014 #60
That sounds like a great idea! FrodosPet Sep 2014 #86
This is kindling for riots. <n/t> frustrated_lefty Sep 2014 #68
Are you bringing the kerosene and matches? FrodosPet Sep 2014 #76
Detroit's infrastructure was built for a city of 2 million. former9thward Sep 2014 #75
Jesus Christ. Talk about fucking cold. Arkana Sep 2014 #83
Not as cold as you think FrodosPet Sep 2014 #85
Yes, as cold, even colder. How is this compliant with the UN resolution per bl968's post #60? valerief Sep 2014 #87
Does the UN Resolution require in-home delivery? FrodosPet Sep 2014 #89
This is implied in Dmitry Orlov's view of soft (Soviet) vs hard (American) crashes GliderGuider Sep 2014 #84
Let it Rip: Duggan takes control of water department FrodosPet Sep 2014 #88
How proud his mother must be yurbud Sep 2014 #93
Prick. dipsydoodle Sep 2014 #96
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