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In reply to the discussion: Detroit tells judge: We can't give away free water [View all]LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)70. Democrat huh
In This case, I will use the words in the Corporate Rag you quoted, against your point.....get ready.....this one will be too cute "
"The impact of an emergency manager on Detroits mayoral race took a new twist today as labor activist Robert Davis released e-mails from top aides to Gov. Rick Snyder that he says show that candidate Mike Duggan played a role in the selection process that resulted with Kevyn Orrs appointment.
It was Davis latest salvo against Duggan, who is trying to become mayor of Detroit through a write-in campaign.
Davis, who works with the citys largest labor union the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees Council 25 supported mayoral candidate Tom Barrows challenge that Duggan hadnt lived in the city for a year the day he turned in campaign signatures to make the Aug. 6 ballot. A Wayne County judge agreed.
Duggan dismissed any hint today that his involvement with the Snyder administration was anything other than to tell Snyder and his staff that Detroit didnt need an emergency manager and that it would be a mistake to appoint one before the city could elect a mayor capable of fixing the city without a takeover.
I tried very hard to convince the governors people not to appoint an emergency manager, Duggan told the Free Press. You see what influence I had. They ignored me.
Davis provided the e-mails to the Free Press today. They were released as part of a lawsuit he filed against the Snyder administration, alleging that it violated the states open meetings laws in recruiting and selecting an emergency manager. State officials have turned over some e-mails and documents an Ingham County judge ordered released to Davis.
One e-mail from top Snyder adviser Rich Baird, who played a major role in the emergency manager selection, indicates that Baird had dinner with Duggan on Feb. 5. The e-mail appears to be to Kevyn Orr, more than a month before he was chosen as Detroits emergency manager, Davis said.
Mike has made a reasoned, logical and impassioned plea to defer any appointment of an EFM until after the election in November, the e-mail says. He is concerned that an EFM will make too many decisions to resolve the short-term crisis in Detroit without regard to the long term (such as hiring a police chief, consolidating operations under an authority, not prioritizing city services in the same way as a strong mayor would, etc.).
A second e-mail, to Baird from state Treasurer Andy Dillon, references Duggan telling state officials that another candidate for the emergency manager job, whose name was redacted in the documents Davis released, shouldnt be eligible for the job, but there is a role for him in the effort to turn around Detroit.
Orr was appointed March 25."
http://www.freep.com/article/20130717/NEWS01/307170135/Mike-Duggan-Robert-Davis-emergency-manager
Mike's a "Democrat" however worked with Andy "Dino" working for Conway-Mackenzie as a Consultant now -- former State Treasurer Andy Dillon -- who helps pushed Detroit into Bankruptcy for the purposes of his own personal gain. Amazing Democrats right?
Speaking of Andy, there was a meeting where Andy was called out on his tactics by the former City Council Women JoAnne Watson and C.P.A. Tom Barrow -- however, of course those who love corporate media would know nothing about this meeting:
"On March 12, 2013, Independent Underground Radio LIVE -- Michigan's Top Politico Program -- obtained a Exclusive Interview with President of Citizen's for Detroit's Future, Former Head of Michigan Licensing Board of Accountancy and C.P.A.- Tom Barrow.
In the interview, C.P.A. Barrow who's a 2013 candidate for Mayor of Detroit warned on Michigan's Governor Rick Snyder's intentions assigning a Emergency Manager to the City could lead to dangerous consequences for Pension Retirees.
Mr. Barrow specifically shared details of a financial review meeting he was invited to attend with Councilwoman Joanne Watson (D) and State Treasurer Andy Dillon. State Treasurer Dillon revealed under Barrow's tough and pointed financial questions, the City of Detroit did not have a immediate fiscal crisis.
During the meeting C.P.A. Barrow detailed how State Treasurer Dillon decried the primary reason an Emergency Manager was assigned to Detroit, was to deal with the City long-term debt by restructuring or eliminating Detroit's Retiree Pension Obligations.
On Thursday, July 18th, Michigan's Governor Rick Snyder with his Emergency Manager Kevyn Orr announced Detroit, Michigan will launch the largest bankruptcy proceeding in United States history, after Detroit's Pension Board launched a suit to determine if Gov. Snyder and E.M. true mission in the bankruptcy process of the end City of Detroit Retiree Pension Guarantees."
The interview is here: https://soundcloud.com/webmaster-38-3/tom-barrow-mar-12-2013
Yep, that's the Democrat --- Andy Dillon. Should I place more information about his Consultant duties for the State of Michigan after his so-called retirement, the war of the Roses Divorce or the Caribbean Vacation. If so, just let us know.
Back to the "Democrat" Mayor Duggan
"State and local leaders conspired to plunge Detroit into the nations largest municipal bankruptcy in a series of surreptitious meetings that began soon after Mayor Dave Bing was elected to his first full term in 2010, the Motor City Muckraker has learned.
In early 2011, newly elected Gov. Rick Snyder and his executive team invited Bing and his aide, Kirk Lewis, to private brainstorming sessions. The topic devising a strict emergency manager law that would allow an appointed official to break union contracts and privatize services in financially struggling municipalities.
The private sessions, which the mayor and governor had denied took place, marked the beginning of two years of secret meetings intended to deceive Detroiters, city workers and other stakeholders about the prospect of a financial takeover and bankruptcy, calling into question whether authorities ever intended to bargain in good faith, a requirement of Chapter 9 bankruptcy.
Involved was a surprising array of local and state politicians, including the governor, Treasurer Andy Dillon, Emergency Manager Kevyn Orr, mayoral candidate Mike Duggan/i], former Council President Pro Tem Gary Brown and a host of others."
http://motorcitymuckraker.com/2013/08/05/muckraker-alert-road-to-bankruptcy-paved-in-secrets-lies/
Motorcity Muckraker is a independent media operation however, it does indeed have the tendency to tell it like it is.....including as a quoted source of many local 2,4 and 7 (S.E. Michigan) News stations. Loving how the "Democrat" Duggan was secretly meeting for years on end with Baird and Rick Snyder. Two REPUBLICANS. Maybe if Duggan is a "Democrat" it's in name only.....just like Andy D.
Oh, one more point....speaking of Baird, Rich Baird, the Governor Rick Snyder right hand man:
"The Snyder administration initially explained the Michigan exemption as an inadvertent error made apparently in closing documents during the home purchase process. But Democrats, noting Bairds background at a major accounting firm, had called on Snyder to fire him.
Botke said Bairds property tax bill would have included a line indicating how much he saved because of the exemption, but she suggested it was easy to overlook. Do you read every line on your tax bill?"
With the township admitting error, Baird took on his critics this weekend, reportedly threatening to sue Michigan AFL-CIO President Karla Swift over a newspaper editorial and Senate Minority Leader Gretchen Whitmer for suggesting during a recent television appearance that Snyder "has crooks working for him" in state government.
I do not like being termed a crook and am considering suing Gretchen Whitmer and others, Baird told Senate Majority Leader Randy Richardville in an email chain distributed by the Michigan Democratic Party. Thought you might like to know.
MDP Chairman Lon Johnson defended Whitmer, saying she has not only the right but the responsibility to hold Snyder and his closest adviser accountable.
Bairds threat is nothing but a blatant and outrageous attempt by the Snyder administration to bully Leader Whitmer into silence about the pattern of cronyism and questionable activities by top Snyder officials, Johnson said in a statement.
Baird, who hired Snyder for his first job back in the early 1980s, joined the governor-elects transition team as he prepared to take office following the 2010 election. He currently holds the title of "transformation manager."
http://www.mlive.com/lansing-news/index.ssf/2014/09/top_snyder_aide_got_second_tax.html
By the way, Gretchen -- the Democrat Baird who double dipped for a Property Tax Exemption in two states (one of which after being caught, he paid back) threatened to sue a REAL DEMOCRAT -- State Senate Majority Leader Gretchen Whitmer. So far, Baird boasting about a lawsuit for Whitmer using her Constitutional right to Free Speech has went nowhere.
And back to the point...Duggan is some type of interesting type of "Democrat", huh?
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If you think the costs of water are tough, try a dysentery or cholera epidemic! n/t
TygrBright
Sep 2014
#1
Ironic that this water problem is engineered by the same people who want to repeal the ACA
Jack Rabbit
Sep 2014
#4
I don't believe Mike Duggan is a Koch patsy trying to screw the citizens of Detroit
FrodosPet
Sep 2014
#45
We subsidize school lunch, maybe need to subsidize water as well. Provide each house with
jtuck004
Sep 2014
#2
I don't know any renter in any state that pays water, it used to be such a small amount that it was
hollysmom
Sep 2014
#97
Excellent. I also live in such a system. But some landlords turned over billing to private firms.
freshwest
Sep 2014
#46
VICE did a story on this, if everyone watched what I posted they would be informed
snooper2
Sep 2014
#78
I don't hate it, just being realistic...They need to have a massive relocation project
snooper2
Sep 2014
#81
I wasn't actually making that case. I just feel that Detroit's dilemma is not the fault of the
freshwest
Sep 2014
#35
That happened after they were getting lashed about it, by the public then the UN.
Dont call me Shirley
Sep 2014
#72
If they just plainly said, "We want poor people to die," they would be laughed out of court
shenmue
Sep 2014
#15
If these people can't pay their water bills, how are they going to pay their property taxes? n/t
PoliticAverse
Sep 2014
#33
Canada used to be world renowned for high quality public utilities, water, gas, electricity,
Monk06
Sep 2014
#59
The Detroit Water and Sewerage Department is a branch of the City of Detroit government.
FrodosPet
Sep 2014
#64
My understanding is that the bankruptsy proceedings have put an appointed City Manager in charge
Monk06
Sep 2014
#67
Missed the existence of the mayor. I thought a state appointed city manager was in charge.
Monk06
Sep 2014
#94
Yes, as cold, even colder. How is this compliant with the UN resolution per bl968's post #60?
valerief
Sep 2014
#87
This is implied in Dmitry Orlov's view of soft (Soviet) vs hard (American) crashes
GliderGuider
Sep 2014
#84