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62. When you own dogs that are powerful enough to kill you have to extra vigilant

Sat Oct 4, 2014, 12:46 PM

Oct 2014

And when you own a pack of them it is a thousand times more important to have control of them at all times. Dogs mentality changes if they are in a pack unless they have a clear and constant human that they see as a leader. Take a pack of large dogs and leave them out alone in a yard most of the time and they will choose their own leader and that can become dangerous.

I had a dog that could easily kill a person if he wanted to. Therefore I am extremely careful with him. He is a sweet and wonderful loving companion, but I would be remiss if I ever stopped paying attention to the fact that he could be dangerous.

I think most of these attacks, by pits or other breeds come from the fact that their human companions treat them either like their children or neglect them.

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Dog Owner Gets At Least 15 Years In Fatal Mauling [View all] Purveyor Oct 2014 OP

I have no sympathy for him at all. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2014 #1

+1 (nt) NYC_SKP Oct 2014 #3

When will these dogs, bred for aggression, be banned? nt valerief Oct 2014 #2

Oh come on, they are like guns... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2014 #4

I'm afraid to go walking. There are two pitbulls up the street from me. valerief Oct 2014 #5

I hear you... awoke_in_2003 Oct 2014 #6

I'm amazed the pitbullsexuals aren't jumping on us now. nt valerief Oct 2014 #7

Maybe there is a awoke_in_2003 Oct 2014 #8

Some men do harm too. So we should call all men ticking time bombs and ban them all. DesertDiamond Oct 2014 #27

i lived next to 2 pits for a decade. squared off on me a couple times. took out the rottweiler seabeyond Oct 2014 #55

You can throw good pitbull stories at me all day. There still is little reason to have those dogs brewens Oct 2014 #9

Unless you want a sweet, loving dog who loves all living beings, like all the pit bulls I have known DesertDiamond Oct 2014 #29

I've never met a pit bull owner who wasn't a wanna-be tough guy XemaSab Oct 2014 #53

My best friend growing up had a Red Nose Pitbull. IVoteDFL Oct 2014 #56

So you're thinking of the dog as a potential weapon? XemaSab Oct 2014 #57

There isn't anything wrong with having a dog for protection. IVoteDFL Oct 2014 #61

I have known a couple of dozen pitties over the years and none of them owned by wannabe tough guys DesertDiamond Oct 2014 #65

almost half of all fatal dog attacks are attributed to pit bull breeds backwoodsbob Oct 2014 #101

Why did they need to be foreclosed? Did no one report them and have them shut down? DesertDiamond Oct 2014 #26

I agree, dog fighting is a crime & it is criminal animal abuse. Call the police. Sunlei Oct 2014 #52

I don't know. I notified the police when two of the dogs valerief Oct 2014 #85

selective breeding works KurtNYC Oct 2014 #95

This was not about pit bulls snapping. They were TRAINED to attack to protect his drug business. DesertDiamond Oct 2014 #25

People are the problem, as usual, not the dogs! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2014 #37

Thank you! And this story illustrates that. Meth lab owner trains them to attack and probably gives DesertDiamond Oct 2014 #74

bullshit backwoodsbob Oct 2014 #102

Do you have ANY idea how difficult it is to train a dog to attack? Drahthaardogs Oct 2014 #96

Bred for LOYALTY Hari Seldon Oct 2014 #12

Bwahahahaha! Very funny! valerief Oct 2014 #13

Horrific that you blame all for the actions of a few. The word for that is "bigot." DesertDiamond Oct 2014 #30

Nope, it's called BREEDING. nt valerief Oct 2014 #41

And again, most pitties are NOT bred to be attack dogs. And they do not attack DesertDiamond Oct 2014 #66

Actually the entire breed WAS bred to fight...thus the name... EX500rider Oct 2014 #69

No, they were originally bred to be nanny dogs and take care of children. The "pit bull" label was DesertDiamond Oct 2014 #75

here's the wikki page on Pitbull breeds... EX500rider Oct 2014 #77

Children should never be left alone around any dog XemaSab Oct 2014 #91

Some pit bulls are bred for aggression;some men are too. So we should ban both pit bulls and men. DesertDiamond Oct 2014 #23

Tell me more about rhis eugenic program that breeds aggresiveness AngryAmish Oct 2014 #28

I think you meant to post this under some other post? DesertDiamond Oct 2014 #31

I wouldn't think so, you claimed that some men are bred for agressiveness. Thor_MN Oct 2014 #90

You know what they were also bred for? To **NOT** be agressive toward humans. baldguy Oct 2014 #73

Well said, baldguy! DesertDiamond Oct 2014 #76

The stupidest people in America bluestateguy Oct 2014 #10

Good list! nt valerief Oct 2014 #11

It's longer than that. I can see 4 right here. n/t jtuck004 Oct 2014 #15

+1 JoeyT Oct 2014 #16

+1 DesertDiamond Oct 2014 #33

I've had pitbulls and will again. secondvariety Oct 2014 #21

Hear, hear. DesertDiamond Oct 2014 #24

Come back and ask this Plucketeer Oct 2014 #46

Not all secondvariety Oct 2014 #59

I'm guessing secondvariety does not train pitties to attack, as did the meth lab owner in this story DesertDiamond Oct 2014 #67

Why on earth can people not keep their dogs confined TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #14

He didn't keep them well confined because he kept them to protect his drug business. DesertDiamond Oct 2014 #34

I said "people" not him specifically TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #38

You're right, where it happened isn't relevant. Thank you for all that you said. DesertDiamond Oct 2014 #79

This was purposeful training of dogs to "protect" his illegal activities etherealtruth Oct 2014 #39

I said he was a murderous asshole TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #40

i am with you ... this guy is as guilty as if he set land mines etherealtruth Oct 2014 #42

And I'm guessing he probably also gave them meth, or gunpowder, which is what they do to make the DesertDiamond Oct 2014 #81

horrific ... animal abuse , murder, criminal enterprise etherealtruth Oct 2014 #86

"Any dog can be dangerous in whatever they consider is the right circumstances" EX500rider Oct 2014 #48

never heard of the Pomeranian that killed a baby? TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #87

Yes! Some people don't get that their dog roaming free is also IN danger! DesertDiamond Oct 2014 #80

So true! People who don't confine and leash their dogs endanger the public AND their dogs! DesertDiamond Oct 2014 #78

The sentence is 15 *to life*. He won't even come up for parole for 15 years, and he won't tblue37 Oct 2014 #104

not good enough TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #105

This has got to be the lamest bunch of replies I've ever seen on DU. C Moon Oct 2014 #17

it's not about the dogs, it's about the owners Enrique Oct 2014 #18

I agree—but read through the thread above, you'll understand what I'm talking about... C Moon Oct 2014 #19

Clearly there are some very sweet pit bulls. Chemisse Oct 2014 #20

^^^THIS^^^. This is the problem with pitbulls in America today. valerief Oct 2014 #43

I agree, but I'm cautious around every unfamiliar dog. phylny Oct 2014 #32

one should always be cautious around any unfamiliar dog TorchTheWitch Oct 2014 #47

I agree. I know a lot of pit bulls, and they are ALL sweet and harmless. To insist they are DesertDiamond Oct 2014 #35

Seriously, animals that are potentially lethal to humans ... onwardsand upwards Oct 2014 #22

And euthanize anyone of any breed who might be harmful. Hey, ANYONE could snap and become dangerous. DesertDiamond Oct 2014 #36

You keep proving you're a pitbull owner. nt valerief Oct 2014 #45

I actually have a sweet, loving pit bull in foster care. He is kind to everyone including cats DesertDiamond Oct 2014 #68

Not everyONE, but every (non-human) animal that is potentially lethal to humans. onwardsand upwards Oct 2014 #58

Again, if we are going to generalize about dangerous living beings, humans can be dangerous too DesertDiamond Oct 2014 #70

Sigh ... onwardsand upwards Oct 2014 #93

I think sterilization of the breed might be a better idea. EX500rider Oct 2014 #49

I agree with this. onwardsand upwards Oct 2014 #64

So basically, any dog larger than, say, a Chihuahua? mantis49 Oct 2014 #54

There's a line somewhere, and some smart and informed person should draw it. onwardsand upwards Oct 2014 #60

The owner is 100% at fault here. This woman and the dogs had to pay for his carelessness logosoco Oct 2014 #44

Most of us aren't as worried about dog bites as we are... EX500rider Oct 2014 #50

You're making WAY too much sense for certain people to comprehend. nt valerief Oct 2014 #51

I totally agree. In the very small percentage of pit bulls who attack, it's always a human who DesertDiamond Oct 2014 #71

So was it Darla Napora or her husband who trained their dog to attack? XemaSab Oct 2014 #92

The dog that killed Darla Napora was a rescue. Heidi Oct 2014 #97

So rescue pit bulls can't be trusted? XemaSab Oct 2014 #98

Did I say that? Heidi Oct 2014 #99

When you own dogs that are powerful enough to kill you have to extra vigilant Marrah_G Oct 2014 #62

That is so true. Chemisse Oct 2014 #88

I do wish people would stop breeding pit bulls, but also stop breeding ALL dogs and cats! Arugula Latte Oct 2014 #63

Thank you! We have enough rescue animals for all who want a pet. Why breed more??? DesertDiamond Oct 2014 #83

From that article: mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2014 #72

I remember that. SO glad Knoller was convicted of murder. Dog was a Presa Canario, not a pittie but DesertDiamond Oct 2014 #84

sure. but where is the enforcement. tomp Oct 2014 #94

The Presa Canario is a rough breed, too. toby jo Oct 2014 #100

I can't wait to walk my pet lion down the streets of L.A. U4ikLefty Oct 2014 #82

Bingo! "My big cat wouldn't hurt a fly." Until it does. Cuz it's bred that way. nt valerief Oct 2014 #103

From the article: George II Oct 2014 #89