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In reply to the discussion: COURT FINALLY OVERTURNS MARISSA ALEXANDER’S 20 YEAR SENTENCE. [View all]GGJohn
(9,951 posts)147. Here.
The trial court likewise rejected Appellants version of events when it denied her claim of immunity under the Stand Your Ground law after making the following relevant findings:
On August 1, 2010, the Defendant shot at or near Rico Gray Sr. . The Defendant had not been living in the marital home for the two months leading up to the shooting. On the evening of July 31, 2010, the Defendant drove herself to the marital home and parked in the garage, closing the garage door after parking her vehicle. The Defendant stayed the night in the marital home. The next morning, on August 1, 2010, Rico Gray Sr. arrived at the marital home with his two sons and the children entered the home through the garage door. Rico Gray Sr. made the family breakfast and nothing went awry.
After breakfast, the Defendant went into the master bedroom. Before entering the bathroom, the Defendant handed her phone to Rico Gray Sr. to show him pictures of their newborn baby [], who was still in the hospital. At that point, the Defendant went into the master bathroom while Rico Gray Sr. looked through the phone. While going through the phone, Rico Gray Sr. observed texts from the Defendant to her ex-husband Lincoln Alexander prompting Rico Gray Sr. to question whether the newborn baby was his. At this point, Rico Gray Sr. opened the bathroom door to confront the Defendant regarding the texts. A verbal argument ensued between the Defendant and Rico Gray Sr. For this reason, Rico Gray Sr. stepped out of the bathroom and yelled for his sons to put their shoes on because they were leaving. Rico Gray Sr. returned to the bathroom and demanded that the Defendant explain the texts and the verbal argument continued. During the verbal argument Rico Gray Sr. stood in the doorway to the bathroom and the Defendant could not get around him. Either Rico Gray Sr. moved from the doorway or the Defendant pushed around him to exit the bathroom.
Rico Gray Sr. moved to the living room where his children were. Subsequently, the Defendant emerged from the master bedroom and went into the garage where her car was parked. The Defendant testified she was trying to leave the residence but could not get the garage door to open. (The Court notes that despite the Defendant's claim she was in fear for her life at that point and trying to get away from Rico Gray she did not leave the house through the back or front doors which were unobstructed. Additionally, the garage door had worked previously and there was no evidence presented to support her claim.) The Defendant then retrieved her firearm from the glove box of the vehicle. The Defendant returned to the kitchen with the firearm in her hand and pointed it in the direction of all three Victims. Rico Gray Sr. put his hands in the air. The Defendant shot at Rico Gray Sr., nearly missing his head. The bullet traveled through the kitchen wall and into the ceiling in the living room. The Victims fled the residence and immediately called 911. The Defendant stayed in the marital home and at no point called 911. The Defendant was arrested on the date of the incident.
The Defendant posted bail prior to arraignment and was ordered by the Court and signed a document through Pretrial Services stating she was to have no contact with the Victims in the instant case. However, the Defendant continued to have contact with the Victims in this case, more specifically with Rico Gray Sr. Prior to Rico Gray Sr.'s deposition, the Defendant and Rico Gray Sr. discussed what he should say at deposition. Shortly after Rico Gray Sr.'s deposition, the Defendant drove to Rico Gray Sr. 's new house where his two children were staying (not the Defendant's home). While there, the Defendant physically attacked Rico Gray Sr., causing injury to Rico Gray Sr.'s face. Again, Rico Gray Sr. immediately called 911 after the incident and the Defendant did not. The Defendant was arrested on new charges and her bond was revoked.
There is insufficient evidence that the Defendant reasonably believed deadly force was needed to prevent death or great bodily harm to herself, another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony. During the date in question, the Defendant alleged that while in the bathroom Rico Gray Sr. pushed her, and the bathroom door hit her in the leg when it swung open. Per the Defendant's own testimony, she did not suffer serious bodily injury as a result of the altercation that took place in the bathroom. Further, after Rico Gray Sr. exited the master bedroom, the Defendant intentionally passed by the Victims and entered the garage where she immediately armed herself and proceeded back into the home. This is inconsistent with a person who is in genuine fear for his or her life.
After weighing the credibility of all witnesses and other evidence, this Court finds that the Defendant has not proved by a preponderance of the evidence that she was justified in using deadly force in defense of self. Hence, the Defendant has not met her burden of establishing her right to immunity as a matter of fact or law.
On August 1, 2010, the Defendant shot at or near Rico Gray Sr. . The Defendant had not been living in the marital home for the two months leading up to the shooting. On the evening of July 31, 2010, the Defendant drove herself to the marital home and parked in the garage, closing the garage door after parking her vehicle. The Defendant stayed the night in the marital home. The next morning, on August 1, 2010, Rico Gray Sr. arrived at the marital home with his two sons and the children entered the home through the garage door. Rico Gray Sr. made the family breakfast and nothing went awry.
After breakfast, the Defendant went into the master bedroom. Before entering the bathroom, the Defendant handed her phone to Rico Gray Sr. to show him pictures of their newborn baby [], who was still in the hospital. At that point, the Defendant went into the master bathroom while Rico Gray Sr. looked through the phone. While going through the phone, Rico Gray Sr. observed texts from the Defendant to her ex-husband Lincoln Alexander prompting Rico Gray Sr. to question whether the newborn baby was his. At this point, Rico Gray Sr. opened the bathroom door to confront the Defendant regarding the texts. A verbal argument ensued between the Defendant and Rico Gray Sr. For this reason, Rico Gray Sr. stepped out of the bathroom and yelled for his sons to put their shoes on because they were leaving. Rico Gray Sr. returned to the bathroom and demanded that the Defendant explain the texts and the verbal argument continued. During the verbal argument Rico Gray Sr. stood in the doorway to the bathroom and the Defendant could not get around him. Either Rico Gray Sr. moved from the doorway or the Defendant pushed around him to exit the bathroom.
Rico Gray Sr. moved to the living room where his children were. Subsequently, the Defendant emerged from the master bedroom and went into the garage where her car was parked. The Defendant testified she was trying to leave the residence but could not get the garage door to open. (The Court notes that despite the Defendant's claim she was in fear for her life at that point and trying to get away from Rico Gray she did not leave the house through the back or front doors which were unobstructed. Additionally, the garage door had worked previously and there was no evidence presented to support her claim.) The Defendant then retrieved her firearm from the glove box of the vehicle. The Defendant returned to the kitchen with the firearm in her hand and pointed it in the direction of all three Victims. Rico Gray Sr. put his hands in the air. The Defendant shot at Rico Gray Sr., nearly missing his head. The bullet traveled through the kitchen wall and into the ceiling in the living room. The Victims fled the residence and immediately called 911. The Defendant stayed in the marital home and at no point called 911. The Defendant was arrested on the date of the incident.
The Defendant posted bail prior to arraignment and was ordered by the Court and signed a document through Pretrial Services stating she was to have no contact with the Victims in the instant case. However, the Defendant continued to have contact with the Victims in this case, more specifically with Rico Gray Sr. Prior to Rico Gray Sr.'s deposition, the Defendant and Rico Gray Sr. discussed what he should say at deposition. Shortly after Rico Gray Sr.'s deposition, the Defendant drove to Rico Gray Sr. 's new house where his two children were staying (not the Defendant's home). While there, the Defendant physically attacked Rico Gray Sr., causing injury to Rico Gray Sr.'s face. Again, Rico Gray Sr. immediately called 911 after the incident and the Defendant did not. The Defendant was arrested on new charges and her bond was revoked.
There is insufficient evidence that the Defendant reasonably believed deadly force was needed to prevent death or great bodily harm to herself, another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony. During the date in question, the Defendant alleged that while in the bathroom Rico Gray Sr. pushed her, and the bathroom door hit her in the leg when it swung open. Per the Defendant's own testimony, she did not suffer serious bodily injury as a result of the altercation that took place in the bathroom. Further, after Rico Gray Sr. exited the master bedroom, the Defendant intentionally passed by the Victims and entered the garage where she immediately armed herself and proceeded back into the home. This is inconsistent with a person who is in genuine fear for his or her life.
After weighing the credibility of all witnesses and other evidence, this Court finds that the Defendant has not proved by a preponderance of the evidence that she was justified in using deadly force in defense of self. Hence, the Defendant has not met her burden of establishing her right to immunity as a matter of fact or law.
http://blackbutterfly7.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/alexander-decision.pdf
Once she retreated to the garage, SYG went away, that's why the court ruled that SYG wasn't applicable..
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I fear you're right. I found this article that seems to cast doubt on her chances:
NYC_SKP
Oct 2014
#379
Again, if you ever live life inside a dwelling as a woman with an enraged partner
truedelphi
Oct 2014
#241
MY aren't we special? After all, inter galactic avengers are a dime a dozen,
truedelphi
Oct 2014
#323
That is typical in abusive situations, abusers manipulate everyone around them
Tumbulu
Oct 2014
#216
And despite your rudeness and crudeness, I am neither silly nor telling lies about you.
merrily
Oct 2014
#292
Good lord. Read for comprehension, please. I was not accusing you of getting paid or of
merrily
Oct 2014
#294
Oh, please. Not everyone gets alerted on and not everyone posts the way he's been posting either.
merrily
Oct 2014
#299
You've had many other replies. This is the last. Sorry to have disappointed you,
merrily
Oct 2014
#304
No back pedal whatsoever. Amost anyone reading Reply 285 would get that I never accused you
merrily
Oct 2014
#303
that's probably one of the more misogynist posts I've read throughout this debate.
redruddyred
Oct 2014
#353
She had the right to come back. Once she came back, she had the right to stand her ground.n/t
ieoeja
Oct 2014
#69
Except she walked through the door and opened fire. That is not standing your ground.
hack89
Oct 2014
#74
Walking back into a house and pointing a gun at three people, for starters. nt
msanthrope
Oct 2014
#169
If she ran into him the next day and there was no threatening, physical violence,
GGJohn
Oct 2014
#77
Yes...that's what she was convicted of. And she will be convicted of, again. nt
msanthrope
Oct 2014
#259
Stand Your Ground for a black person, a woman even? Holy cow. Is this all to get
valerief
Oct 2014
#24
Of course he applies the self-defense standard. SYG does not apply here--the Florida courts have
msanthrope
Oct 2014
#113
Funny...the door opened to put her car in, and when the police tried it. nt
msanthrope
Oct 2014
#149
He said that after she violated a court order to tamper with his testimony.
lumberjack_jeff
Oct 2014
#152
She walked past the front door as she went into the garage to get her gun from her car
hack89
Oct 2014
#40
you are absolutely right it doesn't make sense but its exactly what abused women do again and again
kmlisle
Oct 2014
#247
Still this is part of a pattern in which the criminal justice system treats women and people of
kmlisle
Oct 2014
#272
It can drive a person wild considering the difference in treatment between Marissa Alexander's case
Judi Lynn
Oct 2014
#26
she may have been stupid, but that doesn't make her the principal aggressor.
redruddyred
Oct 2014
#204
He wasn't beating on her that day, her life was NOT in imminent danger that day,
GGJohn
Oct 2014
#357
why aren't you advocating him serving a minimum sentence for the serial abuse?
Tumbulu
Oct 2014
#224
if her husband had been in jail in the first place, none of this would have happened.
redruddyred
Oct 2014
#354
If Marissa was in the process of being beaten, I would have applauded her for shooting him
Lurks Often
Oct 2014
#359
The jury found her testimony completely unreliable, they took only 12 minutes to convict her.
GGJohn
Oct 2014
#363
Their mind is made up based on whatever initial poor reporting they listened to.
NOVA_Dem
Oct 2014
#63
Yes, she is. She might get off due to trial publicity, but it's a long shot. nt
msanthrope
Oct 2014
#116
The pretrial SYG ruling indicates that she had a restraining order against him.
lumberjack_jeff
Oct 2014
#314
Oh and he let her in and cooked her breakfast- so why didn't he call the police when she arrived?
Tumbulu
Oct 2014
#190
You should probably educate yourself on this case before posting what you believe to be the "facts".
GGJohn
Oct 2014
#197
So... you'd have killed him. Fair enough. What would you have done with the witnesses? n/t
lumberjack_jeff
Oct 2014
#230
well, that is some good news. but the whole trial was a freaking obscenity, and would never
niyad
Oct 2014
#215
No, she fired at his head, narrowly missing him, the bullet traveled through the wall
GGJohn
Oct 2014
#319
Perhaps you'll consider it less of an obscenity once you familiarize yourself with the case...
lumberjack_jeff
Oct 2014
#321
I have not seen a worse case of deliberate disinformation since Crystal Mangum.
lumberjack_jeff
Oct 2014
#229
Even if every bad thing written about her happens to be true, 20 years is still excessive. n/t
nomorenomore08
Oct 2014
#328