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8. Other than venting, what is you point.

Mon Nov 24, 2014, 01:42 AM

Nov 2014

Virtually no one has claimed the shooting was anything but a terrible tragedy. The discussions have primarily concerned whether or not the officers nevertheless acted properly? Issues like whether the gun looked identical to a real firearm is certainly pertinent.

If the video and other evidence and testimony confirms the officers' account of what happened, do still believe the shooting was not justified? What should the officers have done differently knowing what they knew then?

Lastly, do we even yet know the races of either of the involved police officers?

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Good. GGJohn Nov 2014 #1

Self defense of a Child in a playground FreakinDJ Nov 2014 #27

but, but he had a weapon! noiretextatique Nov 2014 #91

But, but, he did. GGJohn Nov 2014 #92

Wrong, This is not hostile intent pasto76 Nov 2014 #93

especially when the 'weapon' was a BB gun noiretextatique Nov 2014 #96

Wrong, cops don't operate under the same ROE's as the military does. GGJohn Nov 2014 #97

Sorry, military ROE and police use of force aren't comparable Lurks Often Nov 2014 #108

you are ridiculous eom noiretextatique Nov 2014 #95

Wow, what a comeback. GGJohn Nov 2014 #98

Not really... FarPoint Nov 2014 #45

We do know that it was a premeditated act... stone space Nov 2014 #54

i agree samsingh Nov 2014 #80

Actually the toy manufacturer sold it with a bright orange tip... EX500rider Nov 2014 #111

Orange tips are meaningless. stone space Nov 2014 #122

I have a very jaded view of policing in current contexts.... AZ Mike Nov 2014 #101

That sounds like a very fair stance to take. GGJohn Nov 2014 #102

Formerly AZ. AZ Mike Nov 2014 #112

Thanks. GGJohn Nov 2014 #113

Flagstaff.... AZ Mike Nov 2014 #114

You get up this way and look us up, we'll treat you to a sumptuous dinner. GGJohn Nov 2014 #115

Perfect! AZ Mike Nov 2014 #116

Ignore The Lovefest billhicks76 Nov 2014 #118

Huh? AZ Mike Nov 2014 #119

And you felt the need to chime in? GGJohn Nov 2014 #120

Your Obvious billhicks76 Nov 2014 #124

Back atcha buddy. GGJohn Nov 2014 #125

I second that heaven05 Nov 2014 #126

This is good news. branford Nov 2014 #2

then why do you keep doing it? noiretextatique Nov 2014 #10

I have discussed the information that has been released. branford Nov 2014 #19

A good shoot??? PatrickforO Nov 2014 #30

A good shoot in no way means it was not a tragedy, branford Nov 2014 #32

The gun did look real, I'll give it that. PatrickforO Nov 2014 #84

I wish your buddies on the police force would come up with Ilsa Nov 2014 #89

confirmation of an execution("good shoot") heaven05 Nov 2014 #53

branford Feral Child Nov 2014 #68

I second that observation. FarPoint Nov 2014 #38

So I should apply all this course of actiona when I see one of these open carry freaks? pasto76 Nov 2014 #94

I mean everything I've heaven05 Nov 2014 #127

After viewing the Video (seeing the pistol) , even I wouldn't carry that thing around. BlueJazz Nov 2014 #3

Then I suppose the corporation that sold it should be charged. nt valerief Nov 2014 #23

Why should they be charged? GGJohn Nov 2014 #25

You know mercuryblues Nov 2014 #37

In the walmart case, it didn't have the orange tip NutmegYankee Nov 2014 #39

I know mercuryblues Nov 2014 #55

BB guns never have an orange tip. NutmegYankee Nov 2014 #88

See Post #68. Feral Child Nov 2014 #70

Uh Huh. GGJohn Nov 2014 #75

If they can't be charged they should be banned BrotherIvan Nov 2014 #26

At the very least, GGJohn Nov 2014 #28

You know, rainbow colors! BrotherIvan Nov 2014 #106

Yes, a complete redesign is in order with glowing rainbow colors. GGJohn Nov 2014 #107

I enjoyed lawn darts and support the Second Amendment. branford Nov 2014 #29

The orange tip was removed making it unrecognizable as a BB Gun liberal N proud Nov 2014 #44

they should be liable samsingh Nov 2014 #79

Actually, I wonder who allowed (if they did) a 12 year old to visit stores with a replica.. BlueJazz Nov 2014 #86

I think this is what the kid had. valerief Nov 2014 #100

Crap!!! That looks real if you remove the tip. GGJohn Nov 2014 #103

Good. Brigid Nov 2014 #4

This is insane. Killing kids is insane. They have no respect for lives of the public. nm rhett o rick Nov 2014 #5

If the officers' account is truthful, and there apparently is at least one video, branford Nov 2014 #9

911 caller's comments noiretextatique Nov 2014 #13

That info apparently wasn't passed on to the responding officers. GGJohn Nov 2014 #16

That information, even if received by the officers, might not be dispositive. branford Nov 2014 #20

Would you bet your life on "probably"? evirus Nov 2014 #35

This. Starry Messenger Nov 2014 #64

Gun nuts and cop fetishists love this story - the quintessential "good shoot," as these assholes say alcibiades_mystery Nov 2014 #6

Here. let this shithead accomodate you. GGJohn Nov 2014 #7

yeah, yeah, yeah heaven05 Nov 2014 #51

Except that's not what was said nor implied by anyone. GGJohn Nov 2014 #57

Yeah, yeah, yeah heaven05 Nov 2014 #59

There you go making shit up about me again. GGJohn Nov 2014 #60

like I said to your original response heaven05 Nov 2014 #62

You're welcome. GGJohn Nov 2014 #63

Hate begats hate heaven05 Nov 2014 #65

Except I don't live my life hating everything around me. GGJohn Nov 2014 #66

you're only heaven05 Nov 2014 #67

Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, whatever. GGJohn Nov 2014 #69

that's the answer I was looking for!!! heaven05 Nov 2014 #71

You too. GGJohn Nov 2014 #72

For fuck's sake Feral Child Nov 2014 #74

Uh huh. GGJohn Nov 2014 #76

Let's let the record speak: Feral Child Nov 2014 #81

Other than venting, what is you point. branford Nov 2014 #8

what race are they? heaven05 Nov 2014 #61

of course not. this would not happen in a suburb noiretextatique Nov 2014 #14

Why wouldn't this happen in a suburbs? branford Nov 2014 #21

"Why wouldn't this happen in a suburbs?" BumRushDaShow Nov 2014 #36

yup. Warren Stupidity Nov 2014 #117

I am neither a gun nut or a cop fetisshist as you describe but, current evidence presented shows... liberal N proud Nov 2014 #46

This NEVER would have happened heaven05 Nov 2014 #52

Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #56

Yeah, I'm sure that's what happened. GGJohn Nov 2014 #58

I agree albino65 Nov 2014 #82

agreed. La Lioness Priyanka Nov 2014 #121

Won't change the outcome. The Courts will protect their own. Cops walk. End of story. blkmusclmachine Nov 2014 #11

Suppose the video shows exactly what the cops say actually happened? GGJohn Nov 2014 #12

what if it doesn't? noiretextatique Nov 2014 #15

Absolutely I'll admit I could be wrong. GGJohn Nov 2014 #18

If the video contradicts the officers' accounts, branford Nov 2014 #24

you forgot to respond to post #18 snooper2 Nov 2014 #77

Hopefully the video will show NeoConsSuck Nov 2014 #43

The gun looks real because it is real. It's a bb gun. mackerel Nov 2014 #17

Airsoft vs BB... Oktober Nov 2014 #22

Does the BB gun require a background check to purchase like a Glock? FarPoint Nov 2014 #40

Airsoft isn't the same as a BB gun. NutmegYankee Nov 2014 #41

Hard to believe there are people here who never pocoloco Nov 2014 #73

It is NOT a BB gun TexasProgresive Nov 2014 #47

Did the kid point the gun at the cop? Beaverhausen Nov 2014 #31

The video has not been released. ManiacJoe Nov 2014 #33

The Walmart videos of the August, John Crawford shooting were held by the Attorney General. FarPoint Nov 2014 #42

Shot for reaching for something that the cop can't see? Beaverhausen Nov 2014 #87

No. Shot before the kid actually aimed at the cops. ManiacJoe Nov 2014 #123

Crazy days MFM008 Nov 2014 #34

In the 60s did he point it at cops? jmowreader Nov 2014 #48

yeah, yeah, yeah heaven05 Nov 2014 #50

It behooves responsible black parents heaven05 Nov 2014 #49

good. let's see what the truth really is samsingh Nov 2014 #78

And if it backs the cops story, GGJohn Nov 2014 #83

It will never be "justifiable", Darb Nov 2014 #85

According to reports, he was told to raise his hands, GGJohn Nov 2014 #90

Still not justifiable. The kid did not have a lethal weapon. Darb Nov 2014 #104

What part of the cops didn't have that info don't you understand? GGJohn Nov 2014 #105

Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #109

Just to be clear, I'm not calling you per se asinine, I'm calling your suggestion that GGJohn Nov 2014 #110

good, because that story where instead of putting hands up boy reached for gun librechik Nov 2014 #99