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PosterChild

(1,307 posts)
34. You think I'm confused?
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 08:38 PM
Nov 2014

Of course low wages, lack of health care and unfair labor practices are unjust. That's why I support the Organization United for Respect, OUR Walmart.

So what, exactly, does that have to do with playing dead in a mall, demanding that shoppers stop shopping and expecting the general populace to give up "materialism" for... for what? Instead, such actions and demands are objectively contrary to the material interests of the retail workers you claim to be concerned about.

Did I say "material interest"? Holy cow, isn't that "materialism"???? Well, yes it is. High wages and good benefits are materialistic values. Are retail clerks sinful for wanting a decent living? If materialist consumers aren't out shopping - if they "think twice before spending that dollar today" and feel guilty about it, where will those high wages and good benefits come from?

And exactly what does "materialism" have to do with Ferguson and Michel Brown's death? Are these shoppers responsible for that? Is blaming their lack of spiritual purity and making them feel guilty for this incident going to help that situation in any way? Or might they resent being accused for something they had nothing to do with and decide to just ignore the whole thing. And go back to shopping.

Antagonizing, vilifying and alienating the people you (I assume) hope to convince and bring to your side doesn't seem like a good strategy to me.

The OUR Walmart organization, however, is a different story. They have a concrete, focused and easy to understand set of interrelated core issues: low wages, poor benefits and lack of representation. They have an easy to identify "bad guy" who they are against: Walmart. And, as far as I can tell, they are trying to create solidarity and sympathy with the general populace, not antagonize, vilify and alienate them. That's the way it should be done.

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"Stop shopping and join the movement" .... PosterChild Nov 2014 #1
How many people do you expect there to be? Bjorn Against Nov 2014 #4
To compare this protest to... PosterChild Nov 2014 #28
You seriously don't see any injustice? Bjorn Against Nov 2014 #33
You think I'm confused? PosterChild Nov 2014 #34
Never heard of it. I guess that is working well. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #35
Are you referring to OUR Walmart? Here... PosterChild Nov 2014 #37
Yes you are confused, these protests are not about materialism Bjorn Against Nov 2014 #39
I'm simply quoting... PosterChild Nov 2014 #51
No one is villifying shoppers Bjorn Against Nov 2014 #53
You are right, there was only one protester.... PosterChild Nov 2014 #60
I was actually at one of the demonstrations Bjorn Against Nov 2014 #61
Its not about me.... PosterChild Nov 2014 #64
You are actively working not to understand what the protests are about Bjorn Against Nov 2014 #65
Consider this from a different perspective... PosterChild Nov 2014 #68
So you believe that 99.999% of shoppers are not actively working to understand the issues? Bjorn Against Nov 2014 #69
Actually I probably insulted 99.999999% of... PosterChild Nov 2014 #71
Speak for yourself Bjorn Against Nov 2014 #73
Perhaps... PosterChild Nov 2014 #75
You're *deliberately* misinterpreting the situation. Feral Child Nov 2014 #59
You don't have to convince me... PosterChild Nov 2014 #62
How is asking the shoppers to join them villifying the shoppers? Bjorn Against Nov 2014 #63
You are right, it could be interpreted that way... PosterChild Nov 2014 #66
Why would anyone view being asked to join as a put down? Bjorn Against Nov 2014 #67
I'm sorry for being so critical... PosterChild Nov 2014 #70
I see no reason to pit this protest against the NAACP march Bjorn Against Nov 2014 #72
That's a fair response.... PosterChild Nov 2014 #74
Thanks for your concern. - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #9
'Morning, KingCharlemane. Feral Child Nov 2014 #23
The lingering sadness over Michael Brown's death and KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #27
Thanks, KC. Feral Child Nov 2014 #58
You are welcome. (nt) PosterChild Nov 2014 #29
LOL, whatev. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #19
Sure, let's LOL... PosterChild Nov 2014 #31
Care to elaborate Feral Child Nov 2014 #22
Please see my response (28) above.... PosterChild Nov 2014 #30
A couple hundred of us got Wal-Mart in St. Paul to lock its doors today. Bjorn Against Nov 2014 #2
Enjoy a well deserved cold Grain Belt Omaha Steve Nov 2014 #3
Thanks, not much of a beer drinker but I will have a margarita Bjorn Against Nov 2014 #5
Good job! NutmegYankee Nov 2014 #7
And don't tell me, let me guess . . . Brigid Nov 2014 #10
There were a couple of cameras there but I am not sure which news outlets they were Bjorn Against Nov 2014 #11
I did find this one... Bjorn Against Nov 2014 #12
But here's what they did mention: Brigid Nov 2014 #14
I am pretty sure the customers noticed the locked doors and the hundreds of people along the road. Bjorn Against Nov 2014 #15
I get the impression . . . Brigid Nov 2014 #16
Of course, Wal-Mart is a major advertiser of theirs they won't do anything to upset them Bjorn Against Nov 2014 #17
YAY!!! Odin2005 Nov 2014 #20
Good work.... daleanime Nov 2014 #76
Now this is a smart way to protest. NutmegYankee Nov 2014 #6
I agree yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #18
They don't care about the people Iamthetruth Nov 2014 #25
For a perfect holiday movie about American consumerism with humor and activism WATCH: appalachiablue Nov 2014 #8
kick riversedge Nov 2014 #13
k&r (nt) enough Nov 2014 #21
I wonder how many hourly workers Iamthetruth Nov 2014 #24
I would imagine seasonal employees will be laid off sooner Travis_0004 Nov 2014 #26
Yes Iamthetruth Nov 2014 #32
Ah yes. I am certain that you really care about the poor and the small businesses. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #36
No, it's a 44 foot meridian Iamthetruth Nov 2014 #38
Me, none. I am one of the wage slaves. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #40
I am Iamthetruth Nov 2014 #41
Oh my, a Jimmy Johns, seriously? Live and Learn Nov 2014 #42
Do tell Iamthetruth Nov 2014 #43
Why not try a simple site search? You might actually learn something from it. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #44
That is what I thought Iamthetruth Nov 2014 #45
You mean you are really too lazy to do a site search for Jimmy Johns? Live and Learn Nov 2014 #46
I'm waiting Iamthetruth Nov 2014 #47
Already answered in the other thread. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #48
You mean Iamthetruth Nov 2014 #49
Perhaps the army should pay a bit better too. Live and Learn Nov 2014 #50
It's simple really Iamthetruth Nov 2014 #54
So risk is the operative word here. You think those willing to gamble deserve riches Live and Learn Nov 2014 #57
A Sargeant also gets BAH and BAS NobodyHere Nov 2014 #52
And a sargeant also is not Iamthetruth Nov 2014 #55
And college costs a hell of a lot these days. nt Live and Learn Nov 2014 #56
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