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Beacool

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185. That's a false equivalence.

Wed Dec 3, 2014, 03:11 AM

Dec 2014

What does protesting over an injustice have to do with trying to justify the destruction and looting of people's property? Particularly when those people had nothing to do with the issue at hand. Some of those who lost their businesses were AA and immigrants. I guess that showed them too, right?

If anyone is gross, it's people like you who justify mayhem for mayhem's sakes. What happened to peaceful protests?

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IN FERGUSON: Police cars, businesses on fire, "much worse than the worst night" in August [View all] brooklynite Nov 2014 OP

oh well heaven05 Nov 2014 #1

Good point JustAnotherGen Nov 2014 #2

? what? Tunkamerica Dec 2014 #151

Yep JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #160

So maybe I misunderstood? Tunkamerica Dec 2014 #161

I make no apologies to how I expressed myself JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #163

You wouldn't be of that opinion if they looted and burned your property. Beacool Nov 2014 #126

you don't know that for certain heaven05 Nov 2014 #130

Yeah, sure............ Beacool Nov 2014 #132

are you kidding? Tunkamerica Dec 2014 #152

See my post - response upthread to you JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #162

Now I'm more confused. Tunkamerica Dec 2014 #166

Are you an African American? JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #168

I'm sorry, but does that really matter? Really? AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #176

What's it to you? JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #188

I could ask you the same question. AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #205

Ha ha ha JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #211

Oh please, don't play that game. Beacool Dec 2014 #186

I did not justify it JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #189

It sounded like you found justification in these people's acts. Beacool Dec 2014 #192

You need to take heaven05 Dec 2014 #193

A wrong does not justify another wrong. Beacool Dec 2014 #202

Yeah one does have to have a moral compass in life heaven05 Dec 2014 #203

No one is saying that anger and frustration at this gross injustice is not justified. Beacool Dec 2014 #206

This, exactly. AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #208

NEVER!!!!!!! heaven05 Dec 2014 #214

I'm afraid you're utterly wrong on this, heaven05, as is the usual. AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #207

That's a false equivalence. Beacool Dec 2014 #185

been peacefully protesting heaven05 Dec 2014 #194

Burning property only perpetuates the racists' point of view. Beacool Dec 2014 #204

Sad, but so damn true. This, too, should be a no-brainer. nt AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #209

The racist heaven05 Dec 2014 #213

I certainly wouldn't if 840high Dec 2014 #178

So what heaven05 Dec 2014 #196

So what? Jobs lost, people 840high Dec 2014 #198

I know what you do believe in....... heaven05 Dec 2014 #199

You can't bring him 840high Dec 2014 #200

I just read that an Advance Auto store was burned. What did that store, and the owner, have WhoWoodaKnew Nov 2014 #3

Misdirected rage Papagoose Nov 2014 #4

if many heaven05 Nov 2014 #9

I'm speaking from my little corner of the world Papagoose Nov 2014 #17

It's more common then you think Reter Nov 2014 #64

if you say so heaven05 Nov 2014 #66

Racism is the systamatic subjugation, duhumanation, and denigration of a group on the basis of race. Agnosticsherbet Nov 2014 #117

I just think it's unfair that someone, who had nothing to do with this, gets their WhoWoodaKnew Nov 2014 #124

This business's owners is a 2 billion dollar conglomerate headquartered in Virginia Tunkamerica Dec 2014 #154

And what of all the people that work there and need their jobs? WhoWoodaKnew Dec 2014 #155

I guess you didn't read my previous posts. Tunkamerica Dec 2014 #164

Do any of them have spouses or kids? Did any of them WhoWoodaKnew Dec 2014 #165

no i'm sure they were all terrible people. Tunkamerica Dec 2014 #167

It's a simple fact that none of the people that worked in these businesses WhoWoodaKnew Dec 2014 #172

Bet they will not rebuild there. Who 840high Dec 2014 #179

OH MY FUCKING GOD!!! catnhatnh Nov 2014 #5

Wait a minute..... Adrahil Nov 2014 #10

no justification heaven05 Nov 2014 #14

Don't whine to me about "LEGITIMATE" protest catnhatnh Nov 2014 #15

So let's be clear, your FINE with the looting? Adrahil Nov 2014 #19

Perhaps you don't do nuance.... catnhatnh Nov 2014 #22

Well said! nt Bragi Nov 2014 #89

Do you care about the peoples lives being ruined in the process? Adrahil Nov 2014 #133

Tell that to Natalie DuBose christx30 Nov 2014 #136

Natalie DuBose ChazII Nov 2014 #143

Yeah, but, she wasn't blocking a street, christx30 Nov 2014 #144

I wasn't being sarcastic. ChazII Nov 2014 #145

This message was self-deleted by its author christx30 Nov 2014 #146

OK, then, they should destroy their own property cpwm17 Dec 2014 #210

And I wonder what he will say when christx30 Nov 2014 #60

During the riots of the sixties... Adrahil Nov 2014 #134

+1 n/t cosmicone Nov 2014 #53

Why are you so anxious to defend CAPITALIST property? Odin2005 Nov 2014 #95

As opposed to SOCIALIST property? ManiacJoe Nov 2014 #100

Well.... Adrahil Nov 2014 #135

I can understand the anger and frustration of the people of Ferguson. I understand the JDPriestly Nov 2014 #113

Because its easy to destroy. cstanleytech Nov 2014 #121

I'm on your side for legitimate protest Tunkamerica Dec 2014 #156

This, just this. AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #173

"Frankly" sarcasm thingy here, No, it does not undermine anything heaven05 Dec 2014 #215

You know who caused everybody to take their eyes off the ball? Travis_0004 Nov 2014 #16

Exactly this. Adrahil Nov 2014 #20

Spooky, isn't it? It's almost as if it happened BY DESIGN. 6000eliot Nov 2014 #21

Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #26

I think he did (or more likely manslaughter), but... Adrahil Nov 2014 #31

oh really, Fujimaster?!!! Carolina Nov 2014 #52

Your facts are wrong. cosmicone Nov 2014 #59

MB was walking down the street minding his own business Carolina Nov 2014 #63

You have a very low bar for "minding his own business" FBaggins Nov 2014 #67

Even last summer Carolina Nov 2014 #107

I didn't comment on who knew what. FBaggins Nov 2014 #109

Oh really, did you not say Carolina Nov 2014 #110

He was fleeing the scene of a crime that he committed... FBaggins Nov 2014 #114

My language skills Carolina Nov 2014 #115

Then perhaps it's your reasoning skills? FBaggins Nov 2014 #118

Your bias is so apparent Carolina Nov 2014 #119

Lol... how ironic FBaggins Nov 2014 #120

yeah he shouldn't have mouthed off to that heaven05 Nov 2014 #139

hey Michael Brown faced heaven05 Nov 2014 #141

those are created facts to justify murder heaven05 Nov 2014 #138

Yours is an opinion, too. Wilson could have been pulling his piece and Brown was attempting.... marble falls Dec 2014 #150

So, are you saying that an innocent man cosmicone Dec 2014 #169

If I were black, male, under thirty? Yeah, I think I would. marble falls Dec 2014 #170

Utterly illogical cosmicone Dec 2014 #171

no, he didn't say black man heaven05 Dec 2014 #217

Yes, you're right cosmicone Dec 2014 #222

P.S believe whatever heaven05 Dec 2014 #223

your rationalizations excusing wilson heaven05 Dec 2014 #216

As a scientist, I'm not willing to disregard facts. cosmicone Dec 2014 #221

I don't beleive it was there when heaven05 Dec 2014 #224

I applaud you for heaven05 Dec 2014 #218

He clearly did... Cooley Hurd Nov 2014 #54

Maybe, but that seems like a reach without any real information Tunkamerica Dec 2014 #157

Yep, a lot of people here angry at the destruction of Capitalist property. So stupid. Odin2005 Nov 2014 #93

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2014 #101

How do you feel about the police shooting and killing unarmed black men? nt MrScorpio Nov 2014 #103

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2014 #108

But he's not here, is he? MrScorpio Nov 2014 #112

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2014 #137

after this heaven05 Nov 2014 #140

Have you forgotten the elections of an all white administrations that ignores the needs of the jwirr Nov 2014 #50

Who knows why the KKK chose to burn it. Maybe a black man owns it. valerief Nov 2014 #73

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2014 #81

I don't play with disruptors. Ignore forever! nt valerief Nov 2014 #82

Firstly, it's terrible that innocent people are involved in this Tunkamerica Dec 2014 #153

The community will lose that store. People 840high Dec 2014 #181

police should have stood guard in front of businesses! they pushed crowds toward/past that area. Sunlei Nov 2014 #6

The National Guard was busy guarding the Governor 4139 Nov 2014 #7

You are blaming the police for criminal acts? Yo_Mama Nov 2014 #8

I AM heaven05 Nov 2014 #11

I won't go so far as to 'blame' the GJ who were merely acting at the behest of KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #18

I will gladly blame the ignorant, likely tainted and possibly racist GJ members LonePirate Nov 2014 #32

I should say I'm withholding judgment on the bad faith of the GJ until I have KingCharlemagne Nov 2014 #33

I hope the Justice Department investigates the police department in Ferguson. JDPriestly Nov 2014 #116

no one on the grand jury heaven05 Dec 2014 #191

Yeah, I get your point. Those grand jurors are hiding behind the mask of KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #195

okay heaven05 Dec 2014 #197

Your bias is noted. 840high Dec 2014 #182

yours is obvious heaven05 Dec 2014 #190

police never responded to 911 calls or alarms from those businesses. Sunlei Nov 2014 #13

Well, that's where the protests have been before. Yo_Mama Nov 2014 #24

I meant without any police protection those businesses were doomed. here is 1 they caught.. Sunlei Nov 2014 #45

Ok, now that is wrong. kjones Nov 2014 #92

there is a tipping point and the number of black people being killed samsingh Nov 2014 #38

What "brown" do you mean? valerief Nov 2014 #75

sorry meant officer wilson samsingh Nov 2014 #87

Just wanted to get you to fix it! :) valerief Nov 2014 #88

thank you - that was my very bad samsingh Nov 2014 #97

You may want to actually fix it in that post. nt valerief Nov 2014 #98

done samsingh Nov 2014 #125

racist dog whistle for sure noiretextatique Nov 2014 #91

I sure am... the police Carolina Nov 2014 #55

What planet do you live on? nt valerief Nov 2014 #74

Are you denying Carolina Nov 2014 #105

You responded to the wrong person. valerief Nov 2014 #128

? Tunkamerica Dec 2014 #158

tell that to heaven05 Dec 2014 #219

what bait? Travis_0004 Nov 2014 #25

UNREC brooklynite Nov 2014 #36

The only job of the cops and national guard Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #99

Darren Wilson expressed himself first BeyondGeography Nov 2014 #12

I'm sure no bank will ever lend money to rebuild the businesses warrant46 Nov 2014 #23

I dont blame them Travis_0004 Nov 2014 #27

I don't believe even the Non Union thugs at Walmart warrant46 Nov 2014 #29

And the people in the neighborhood christx30 Nov 2014 #28

Yep! I know there was such an effort to have yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #43

Actually banks will probably still issue loans and insurance companies will still sell them policies cstanleytech Nov 2014 #122

why can't it be understood heaven05 Dec 2014 #220

I don't get it - destroy others property when they are not even involved in the whole thing liberal N proud Nov 2014 #30

The Mob has no future veiw of their actions warrant46 Nov 2014 #34

Not everyone in the protests were there for the same reason FLPanhandle Nov 2014 #35

Outside of grabbing a couple of bottle os liquor, it doesn't further their own cause either. liberal N proud Nov 2014 #44

...^ that 840high Nov 2014 #62

The owners of capital are the real bosses. They want to bloody the bosses nose. harun Nov 2014 #104

... liberal N proud Nov 2014 #106

...^ that 840high Dec 2014 #183

i'm heartbroken about the man who was executed by the police samsingh Nov 2014 #37

They will never rebuild. The mob has killed the town. Good going morons. n/t Joe Magarac Nov 2014 #39

Did you call the KKK a mob. Farmbrook Nov 2014 #42

Touche, Farmbrook Carolina Nov 2014 #57

Yes, the racist KKK Mob, the new John Birch Lynching Society, has certainly ruined Ferguson. nt valerief Nov 2014 #77

This is all so Rodney King. bemildred Nov 2014 #40

"Big deal Businesses got burned down" Mike Brown Died! Protest is never pretty! Farmbrook Nov 2014 #41

Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #46

You're sick. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2014 #49

go back to Freeperville Carolina Nov 2014 #61

Say it loud, Farmbrook Carolina Nov 2014 #58

American history is a lot more complicated than that, mind you.... AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #180

Words without action are empty and meaningless. Carolina Dec 2014 #226

I just finished reading the entire transcript of the grand jury............... Old Vet Nov 2014 #47

Thanks whitey. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2014 #51

I wont fuck with that whitey remark, Some may find it racist even. Old Vet Nov 2014 #65

After some thought............ Old Vet Nov 2014 #68

No, no it is not etherealtruth Nov 2014 #69

Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #72

Your post displays a lack of understanding of context and social mores n/t etherealtruth Nov 2014 #86

I agree with the original post, but whitey is racist Tunkamerica Dec 2014 #159

Sad but true, and anyone who thinks otherwise is in denial. Fact. nt AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #175

What recurring donations are you signed up for? Wheres your star? My nickname is 'Whitey" btw. marble falls Nov 2014 #96

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2014 #70

you can alert noiretextatique Nov 2014 #90

Post removed Post removed Nov 2014 #79

This is so sad for everyone. leftyladyfrommo Nov 2014 #48

Indeed, it's a terrible shame. =( AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #177

No TRIAL for Wilson? Not even a CHANCE that justice can prevail? vkkv Nov 2014 #56

The family could still file a civil suit FBaggins Nov 2014 #71

Too bad Snow Leopard Nov 2014 #76

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2014 #78

Right the KKK wouldn't have caused these riots. In fact, a black Wilson wouldn't have killed Brown valerief Nov 2014 #80

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Google the Utah shooting of Dillon Taylor Drayden Nov 2014 #84

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of course not. there is a long tradition of black officers killing white people noiretextatique Nov 2014 #94

Nice bucket o' water you got there. Darb Nov 2014 #102

Explain the funny part, please. marble falls Dec 2014 #149

OK. Sorry, while I can understand the anger, I will never understand JDPriestly Nov 2014 #111

I think Tommy Lee Jones said it best as Agent Kay cstanleytech Nov 2014 #123

They destroyed businesses owned and operated by AA. Beacool Nov 2014 #129

+10000000 JDPriestly Nov 2014 #142

The people who are burning and looting are not concerned with being politically smart. Beacool Nov 2014 #147

Yes. We had riots in LA in 1992. JDPriestly Nov 2014 #148

I was pretty young, but I remember the L.A. riots. Beacool Dec 2014 #225

because it isn't their town. pothos Nov 2014 #131

That's not the right answer, fella. nt AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #174

This is not helpful. Beacool Nov 2014 #127

Hell of a thing to show the world. 840high Dec 2014 #184

Yep, it does. Beacool Dec 2014 #187

Lot of newbie right wingers drawn to this thread! BillZBubb Dec 2014 #201

Sadly, we've got a few other idiots, too..... AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #212