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127. Well, no, it's not like telling your mom that.

Wed Jan 7, 2015, 01:42 PM

Jan 2015

"Everybody's doing it!" is an excuse. An attempt to say "this is okay because someone else is doing it!" - that's not the argument being made here.

Rather, the argument being made is that there's no particular reason to "go after" Muslims, as you seem to wish. Yes, there have been attacks and murders by Muslim assholes. There have been far more committed by Christian, however.

This doesn't make either okay, but it does take the wind out of your anti-Muslim fearmongering.

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Deadly attack on office of French magazine Charlie Hebdo [View all] nitpicker Jan 2015 OP

NBC local update nitpicker Jan 2015 #1

some of France's leading liberal voices among the 12 dead uhnope Jan 2015 #115

Witnesses told police that the gunmen shouted "we have avenged the prophet," uhnope Jan 2015 #152

#BREAKING 11 dead including 2 police in Paris shooting: source Bosonic Jan 2015 #2

Charlie Hebdo was targeted for exercising its right to freedom of speech, ellenrr Jan 2015 #33

Whoever thinks Mr. Hebdo brought leftynyc Jan 2015 #44

I am usually on the side of the outlaw, but in this case I hope these assassins are caught, ellenrr Jan 2015 #49

Are you talking about Robin Hood leftynyc Jan 2015 #50

agreed samsingh Jan 2015 #113

Post removed Post removed Jan 2015 #64

There is no "Mr. Hebdo". "Hebdo" means "weekly". KamaAina Jan 2015 #93

Thanks for the correction leftynyc Jan 2015 #101

"Charlie" is from Charlie Brown indirectly csziggy Jan 2015 #147

It never ends until good people say enough. Rhinodawg Jan 2015 #3

France is in free fall? How? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #13

Rhinodawg is a firm believer in Bat Ye'or's "Eurabia" thesis Scootaloo Jan 2015 #30

Oh. Lot of that going around lately. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #39

More fodder for Islamophobes philosslayer Jan 2015 #48

It sure would be more convenient leftynyc Jan 2015 #75

Would you like a shovel? Scootaloo Jan 2015 #76

Don't need one leftynyc Jan 2015 #78

No, your bullshit is all your own. Scootaloo Jan 2015 #120

Awwwwwww leftynyc Jan 2015 #139

I was under the impression that even a self-defined argument is still predicated on an objective and LanternWaste Jan 2015 #140

Repeating yourself leftynyc Jan 2015 #148

Sort of like how Jonathan Pollard gave ammunition to Stormfront, I suppose shaayecanaan Jan 2015 #194

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lol Rhinodawg Jan 2015 #109

I am sitting in France at this moment and I can assure you no such thing is happening. CBGLuthier Jan 2015 #22

What about the Muslim areas of Paris that French police steer clear of? 7962 Jan 2015 #31

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A picture for you... Behind the Aegis Jan 2015 #191

That is absolutely GOLDEN! Didnt get to see what u were responding to, but I can imagine!! 7962 Feb 2015 #200

Of course, when you have nothing, resort to insulting me. HA! 7962 Jan 2015 #176

Well, your posts aren't worthy of a thoughtful response. Scootaloo Jan 2015 #177

Ah, the old favorite, compare a comment to "Stormfront". Weak. But not surprising 7962 Jan 2015 #184

Even Glen Beck isn't this far off the rails & didn't jump giftedgirl77 Feb 2015 #199

"first mentioned it"? Just do a bit of research and see what you find 7962 Feb 2015 #201

Lolol, ok.... the fact that fox apologized & people living in giftedgirl77 Feb 2015 #202

Hey, the New York Times reported on 150 no-go zones TEN years ago. Guess they're in a bubble too. 7962 Feb 2015 #203

Yep, pretty much sums you up. giftedgirl77 Feb 2015 #206

Yeah, I never thought I'd see an article from the NY Times that would back Fox either. 7962 Feb 2015 #207

You should probably avoid Breibart & the like as they are giftedgirl77 Feb 2015 #208

This is an opinion piece. The article I referred to was from 2005. 7962 Feb 2015 #209

WTF does what Clinton said have to do with your giftedgirl77 Feb 2015 #212

Bobby Jindal won't back down on that no-go zone bullshit either. Violet_Crumble Feb 2015 #204

Priceless isn't it??? giftedgirl77 Feb 2015 #205

I know. Did you see the French clip taking the piss out of Faux? Violet_Crumble Feb 2015 #210

I saw that, it was awesome. giftedgirl77 Feb 2015 #211

France and Britain seem to create a lot of jihadis. CJCRANE Jan 2015 #23

See post 30, these folks have made up their minds and set them in stone. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #40

There is a section of Rushdie's "The Satanic Verses" that illustrates alfredo Jan 2015 #85

Political correctness will consume them. Jesus Malverde Jan 2015 #69

What are you talking about? muriel_volestrangler Jan 2015 #94

Care to explain WHO is putting France in free fall? nt alp227 Jan 2015 #138

The newspaper suffered permanent threats mylye2222 Jan 2015 #4

Gee...from who? Rhinodawg Jan 2015 #5

from jihadists. mylye2222 Jan 2015 #8

Didn't they also put him on the cover as a cartoon? JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #15

As stated on msnbc, they were going to feature the book "Submission" this week AngryAmish Jan 2015 #21

I thought that "Submission" related to the situation in the Netherlands. amandabeech Jan 2015 #171

Book was named after the movie AngryAmish Jan 2015 #172

Ah! Thank you. n/t amandabeech Jan 2015 #173

And why should it matter what they printed OnePercentDem Jan 2015 #167

#BREAKING France raises Paris alert status to highest level after newspaper shooting Bosonic Jan 2015 #6

At the moment there is actually no evidence who they are or their motives. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #41

Did I indicate there was? Bosonic Jan 2015 #42

I was referring to the national security alert assuming something without evidence...not to you Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #47

It was already reported, by the time you wrote that, they shouted "we have avenged the rophet" muriel_volestrangler Jan 2015 #97

BBC update nitpicker Jan 2015 #7

wow, the French certainly were not prepared for any kind of attack. sammy750 Jan 2015 #9

How many mass shootings are there in the USA, every year? (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Jan 2015 #16

I'm thinking that's someone JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #18

+1 Depaysement Jan 2015 #80

Been there recently? JustAnotherGen Jan 2015 #17

You think the magazine is to blame? leftynyc Jan 2015 #25

" Of course the magazine has been creating this situation." ?! are you being satirical? ellenrr Jan 2015 #28

If you would bother watching real news.... BooScout Jan 2015 #37

What precision and training do you need with assault rifles against an office of journalists? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #43

The precision is in how they attacked. Not just spraying rounds everywhere. 7962 Jan 2015 #179

What "real" news are you suggesting, and what "fake" news do you presume whathehell Jan 2015 #61

didn't say it was fake... BooScout Jan 2015 #118

Thanks. I now riversedge Jan 2015 #130

Yes, perhaps we should all fly to Wales, where you now live, whathehell Jan 2015 #81

It is defintely superior PaulaFarrell Jan 2015 #88

Say you and Boo.. whathehell Jan 2015 #99

ahhhhhh when feeling inferior.... BooScout Jan 2015 #125

I imagine we all of us like to pretend our "stuff" is better than "their "stuff." LanternWaste Jan 2015 #142

ahhhhhhh when unable to answer a question whathehell Jan 2015 #161

Or you could actually.... BooScout Jan 2015 #123

Or I could actually just ignore you as everyone else here whathehell Jan 2015 #170

"Of course the magazine has been creating this situation." Coventina Jan 2015 #68

I guess the journalists weren't wearing the right clothes... ananda Jan 2015 #84

You have not been to France I take it lunasun Jan 2015 #79

That's sarcasm, right? Pacifist Patriot Jan 2015 #90

No more and no less than... LanternWaste Jan 2015 #141

How do you even prepare for something like this? musicblind Jan 2015 #158

I'm against these attacks... Rhinodawg Jan 2015 #10

These are, of course, lone crazy people get the red out Jan 2015 #24

Well, right here on DU leftynyc Jan 2015 #27

Sarcasm thingie was included get the red out Jan 2015 #55

I saw it leftynyc Jan 2015 #77

And then there is the hypocrisy cosmicone Jan 2015 #71

Link to the overall AFP twitter nitpicker Jan 2015 #11

Eleven dead in shooting at Paris offices of satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo – live updates Bosonic Jan 2015 #12

video clip (not graphic) Bosonic Jan 2015 #14

We're going to war this year. CJCRANE Jan 2015 #19

Oh? With whom? brooklynite Jan 2015 #26

Whoever CJCRANE wants to see dead, I presume Scootaloo Jan 2015 #32

We're already AT war. nt 7962 Jan 2015 #29

Not since 1945 n/t Gore1FL Jan 2015 #105

OK, how 'bout "we're already AT police action"? 7962 Jan 2015 #107

Legality is sort of important when it comes to going to war. n/t Gore1FL Jan 2015 #132

i was under that simplistic same impression too... until 2002. LanternWaste Jan 2015 #143

It's time to unblur the lines. Gore1FL Jan 2015 #163

Who are "we"? Renew Deal Jan 2015 #35

Breaking. 12 death. mylye2222 Jan 2015 #20

French liberal leaders slaughtered uhnope Jan 2015 #134

picture of the latest edition of the magazine, ellenrr Jan 2015 #34

And I just heard Josh Ernest spout the "religion of peace" BS 7962 Jan 2015 #36

So you think there were 1.7 billion gunmen in Paris? Scootaloo Jan 2015 #38

No, under his bed. What about all the crazy gunmen in America? Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #45

I remember people laughing at me a few yrs ago about attacks here, too. 7962 Jan 2015 #110

Well, no, it's not like telling your mom that. Scootaloo Jan 2015 #127

So where are all these Christian murders in the name of religion? 7962 Jan 2015 #178

I suggest you follow your own advice. Watch some video, read some googles. Scootaloo Jan 2015 #180

Thats all you have? Man talk about scraping the barrel. 7962 Jan 2015 #183

Really? Shamash Jan 2015 #52

Thank you. Jamastiene Jan 2015 #150

It IS a religion of peace philosslayer Jan 2015 #53

It is not. nt LexVegas Jan 2015 #57

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All exclusivist religions are cancers. Xithras Jan 2015 #102

As are all exclusive borders cancers too LanternWaste Jan 2015 #145

No religion is a religion of peace. Gore1FL Jan 2015 #106

How about Mennonites? philosslayer Jan 2015 #108

Religion is inherently an us v. them division. Gore1FL Jan 2015 #135

Same applies precisely to national borders-- which also divides by its very nature. LanternWaste Jan 2015 #146

True. The end of nationalism is something we should hope for too. n/t Gore1FL Jan 2015 #162

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And the 'No True Scotsman" fallacy appears GoneOffShore Jan 2015 #151

Over a cartoon? Disgusting and infuriating. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #46

This message was self-deleted by its author cosmicone Jan 2015 #51

More "offended Muslim" BS vs Freedom of Speech cosmicone Jan 2015 #54

Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2015 #60

So. what you're saying is... BadtotheboneBob Jan 2015 #67

I think you do have the right to be offended DVDGuy Jan 2015 #168

Attackers at Paris newspaper shouted 'we have avenged the prophet': police riversedge Jan 2015 #56

Yes, but WHICH prophet? FrodosPet Jan 2015 #83

I suppose shouting Allahu Akbar wasn't enough. B2G Jan 2015 #95

Really? OnePercentDem Jan 2015 #169

Maybe it was 'profit'... freebrew Jan 2015 #104

Yikes, some French speakers on twitter are cheering this. joshcryer Jan 2015 #59

link? Major French progressives were murdered, so it would be RW or other extremists cheering uhnope Jan 2015 #137

Or just the ignorant marshall Jan 2015 #193

Given that this attack was probably committed by IS sympathizers GliderGuider Jan 2015 #62

Increased radicalization shouldn't help, either. joshcryer Jan 2015 #65

Thank you for this article. This was what I was thinking when I read about this and the cartoon. jwirr Jan 2015 #82

Be interesting to see if there is a link to the Syria conflict. Jesus Malverde Jan 2015 #63

I suspect they're Algerian. joshcryer Jan 2015 #66

Enabled by US allies turkey and qatar Jesus Malverde Jan 2015 #70

Yeah, the "crazies need dictators to contain them" argument. joshcryer Jan 2015 #185

Lulz Jesus Malverde Jan 2015 #186

The shit is exaggerated by the MSM. joshcryer Jan 2015 #187

the MSM. Jesus Malverde Jan 2015 #190

You link an MSM article to debunk its bias? joshcryer Jan 2015 #192

We do business with nasty people all over the world. Jesus Malverde Jan 2015 #196

Here is a good view of our real politic Jesus Malverde Jan 2015 #198

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Nailed it Jesus Malverde Jan 2015 #73

No S**T Sherlock. Rhinodawg Jan 2015 #103

The gunmen have escaped... shit Recursion Jan 2015 #74

Not only that, just saw a video of them escaping and they shot a cop Turborama Jan 2015 #89

For those with bloodlust OnlinePoker Jan 2015 #100

Terrorism with guns? Gun culture says that's unpossible. nt onehandle Jan 2015 #86

Link? GGJohn Jan 2015 #92

Foolish me Shamash Jan 2015 #96

Horrible. polly7 Jan 2015 #87

No One Murdered Because Of This Image iandhr Jan 2015 #91

+1000 jonno99 Jan 2015 #156

Mohammed overwhelmed by fundamentalists: It's hard to be loved by idiots reorg Jan 2015 #98

Thanks for posting that cover. SunSeeker Jan 2015 #116

... Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #111

Why was Post #58 hidden? How did it break the rules? 7962 Jan 2015 #112

that post should not have been hidden. samsingh Jan 2015 #114

+1 SunSeeker Jan 2015 #121

Agreed. Mojo Electro Jan 2015 #126

I saw that too. Rhinodawg Jan 2015 #117

that's the problem with the jury system - its a 50-50 samsingh Jan 2015 #131

You've got that right! get the red out Jan 2015 #155

Shitty hide. n/t QC Jan 2015 #119

Because it's a lie that smears all Muslims as terrorists. alp227 Jan 2015 #133

The post did not smear all Muslims as terrorists. SunSeeker Jan 2015 #144

short answer Burf-_- Jan 2015 #159

I'd like for you to point out the part smearing all Muslims 7962 Jan 2015 #174

OK... alp227 Jan 2015 #175

This message was self-deleted by its author harun Jan 2015 #149

Because Islam gets a pass around here leftynyc Jan 2015 #197

Je suis Charlie. SunSeeker Jan 2015 #124

Charlie Hebdo Staffer: 'It Lasted Five Minutes... They Spoke French Perfectly' riversedge Jan 2015 #128

5 minutes to snuff out 12 human lives and destroy so many more. polly7 Jan 2015 #136

Major French progressives killed uhnope Jan 2015 #129

This brutal attack is so much more important than we are acknowledging frazzled Jan 2015 #153

I hope French police tabasco Jan 2015 #154

Why does CNN keep pushing how sophisticated this attack was? tclambert Jan 2015 #157

They are segueing into getting Americans fearful...unless there is a plane crash that is their other Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #181

islamic apologist's be like..... Burf-_- Jan 2015 #160

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Jan 2015 #182

Umm? LeftishBrit Jan 2015 #188

RIP to the victims, and to hell with the murderers LeftishBrit Jan 2015 #189