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Stevepol

(4,234 posts)
6. Don't hold your breath.
Sat Aug 15, 2015, 10:03 PM
Aug 2015

In SC, when Alvin Greene won about 60+% of the votes in the Dem primary a few years ago, the SC Dems had a meeting and listened to several computer experts say that it was almost certainly a computer error or glitch of some kind. Greene, as you may remember, got a wild hair and just decided to run. No campaign, no yard signs, no nothing. Nobody knew his name from Adam and he didn't do anything to change that fact. His opponent was a well-known Dem. Surprisingly or maybe not surprisingly, the favored Dem, who campaigned and spent at least a fair amount of money on the race, was defeated by Greene by about 60% to 35%. An oddity among many others was that Alvin Greene lost to his favored opponent about 65% to 35% in the early voting and in all cases where the vote was recorded on paper. Where the machines were involved, the reverse was the case.

When the SC Dems got together and heard testimony from the computer experts explaining that the result was almost certainly a computer problem, the Dems "unanimously," I believe, voted to let it go and not investigate.

This is what you're up against. It's what all of us are up against when we call for "verified elections." The Dems themselves don't give a damn about fair elections. I have no idea why the SC Dems refused to investigate and if needed have the election again USING HAND-COUNTED PAPER BALLOTS. They could have at least tried. The SC Repubs, the ones in charge of administering the election probably would have charged an outrageous amount to have the repeat election, but it needed to be done. If you call yourself a political party I think you should act like it and try to win. You certainly should stand up for fair, verified elections.

I think I have all the facts pretty much correct. If anybody remembers this better and wants to correct my version, please do so.

I just checked BradBlog about this and my facts are not accurate, close but not accurate.

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7900

Write in Alvin Greene's name at BRadBlog's site and you can find a beaucoup of info about this fiasco.

I just checked in at BradBlog and here are a few of the articles about it. My facts are not entirely accurate.


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Nothing Surprises Anymore cantbeserious Aug 2015 #1
Where is the DOJ? WDIM Aug 2015 #2
The DoJ is busily preserving the status quo, truebluegreen Aug 2015 #3
Chuck Hagel ES&S billhicks76 Aug 2015 #5
This again.... NEDem Aug 2015 #10
One instance. The pattern is pretty clear. nt SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #12
Hagel Still Owned All The Machines That Counted His Votes billhicks76 Aug 2015 #40
I'm a Nebraska native, too! SusanaMontana41 Aug 2015 #43
Don't hold your breath. Stevepol Aug 2015 #6
"The Dems themselves don't give a damn about fair elections." SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #8
Both parties are in on the game. zeemike Aug 2015 #9
Yep. HAVA was a big setup. nt SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #11
Thank you for the link. SusanaMontana41 Aug 2015 #44
The problem is that constitutionally, the states are in charge of voting Demeter Aug 2015 #15
The voting rights act. WDIM Aug 2015 #29
If the DoJ will act Demeter Aug 2015 #31
this isn't voter fraud, this is election fraud. as the old saying goes, "it isn't who voted that niyad Aug 2015 #52
Voter fraud is the people lying Angry Dragon Aug 2015 #57
This is election fraud, not voter fraud . . . markpkessinger Aug 2015 #60
This new Adjutant General ought to be quite different from the former ones -- I hope. Why Cal33 Aug 2015 #37
previously discussed at thesquanderer Aug 2015 #4
And here. And I repeat the offer made in this thread. SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #7
Thanks for Keeping this Dialog Going Wisc Progressive Aug 2015 #13
Please make this an OP. nt SusanCalvin Aug 2015 #16
Thanks, I will... Wisc Progressive Aug 2015 #17
You need to get to 10 posts before you can start your own thread. CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2015 #18
richard charnin has done amazing work on this questionseverything Aug 2015 #22
I own a copy of his book. He used to post here as TruthIsAll, I believe. byronius Aug 2015 #55
welcome to DU riversedge Aug 2015 #35
I don't have time to click on your links today, but will tomorrow-Meanwhile, have you seen this? red dog 1 Aug 2015 #38
yes and yes Wisc Progressive Aug 2015 #42
+ 1 red dog 1 Aug 2015 #53
best documented stolen election questionseverything Aug 2015 #54
Thanks for the link to Command Central Stevepol Aug 2015 #61
Wisconsin Recall: Citizen United, Grisham, Hot Coffee, and Koch MinM Aug 2015 #41
Sabotaging Democracy: Why Are We Allowing Voting Machine Rigging? Lytex Aug 2015 #14
I've been asking the same question since Bush was appointed President due to faulty ballot Cleita Aug 2015 #20
Yeah, The Cricket sound is unnerving Demeter Aug 2015 #21
Kicking..... n/t Hotler Aug 2015 #19
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #23
A pleasure, as always, Uncle Joe! Demeter Aug 2015 #24
I am and hope you are as well. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #25
I live to post! Demeter Aug 2015 #27
... Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #28
Better than Flowers or Chocolate! Demeter Aug 2015 #30
I tried to squeeze flowers and chocolate through the Intertubes Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #32
Another kick. Cleita Aug 2015 #26
In the 2008 priamary some African American Precincts in Harlem and Bedford Stuyvesant in NYC Botany Aug 2015 #33
K & R !!! WillyT Aug 2015 #34
People don't want to believe these stories. It's too hard to comprehend massive voter fraud. rhett o rick Aug 2015 #36
K&R...Thanks for posting red dog 1 Aug 2015 #39
There is nothing more important than this! Peace Patriot Aug 2015 #45
Software driven election theft made easy... Mr_Jefferson_24 Aug 2015 #46
I think it was Harvard mathematicians who discovered the same Joe Chi Minh Aug 2015 #47
Why wouldn't they use them again? Nothing happened to them the first (sic) time. nt valerief Aug 2015 #51
Absolutely. I expect it. It's why I was ticked by the title, as if it were Joe Chi Minh Aug 2015 #59
kick and recommend samsingh Aug 2015 #48
K&R'd! snot Aug 2015 #49
K&R n/t sketchy Aug 2015 #50
Looks like ya have to be a Mathematician d_legendary1 Aug 2015 #56
frusterating PicturingPolitics Aug 2015 #58
damn! Bill USA Aug 2015 #62
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