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Igel

(35,320 posts)
24. Oversight is the issue.
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 12:35 PM
Mar 2012

Regulations and the like.

The problem is finding a disinterested overseer and legislators.

Some legislators support homeschooling. Parents' rights and all that.

Some legislators are convinced that socialization in a school--preferably a public school--setting is indispensible.

The conversation's driven by two (here absurdly stereotyped) views. 1. "government interference in the family is good and wholesome at all times; government cannot have too much power and since kids are ultimately society's responsibility they should be subject to societal control." 2. "Government corrupts everything it touches so government authority should be circumscribed to the greatest extent possible, especially because bureaucrats and legislators have primarily their own authority and how to expand it in view; no bureaucrat loves kids more than their parents, so kids are properly the responsibility of their parents and subject to nearly solely parental control; kids should be brought up in keeping with their parents' cultural views and with a view primarily to socialize them into adult society and not to socialize them into transient, temporary teen or pre-teen society." Yeah, stereotypes. But we see views closer to one or the other in many areas; oddly, people tend always to pick the views that benefit themselves in some way.

You're not going to get something that respects "reasonable" homeschooling because there's no definition of "reasonable" that we can all (or mostly) agree upon. In one state I lived in you needed to take the standardized tests. If you score too low, you must go to public school, even if you do better than you did on the last standardized test and your failure is actually an improvement. If you score too low and you're already in public school, oh, well. Circumstances beyond the parents' control simply don't matter if they're homeschooling; they do if the kid's in public school.

California's teachers unions and bureaucrats a few years ago managed to get homeschooling parents classified as teachers. I don't know if this continued, but the effect would have been to require all homeschooling parents to be certified for their charges' ages and content areas. Only a certified teacher can teach kids, apparently; and all certified teachers are apparently qualified. (One has to imagine that if this stuck, in a decade there'll be required procedures and policies for somebody to conduct teachscapes and observations to evaluate the efficacy and adherence to best practices of homeschooling parents. Perhaps a decade after that, since parents are almost always the first and primary teachers of their kids, certification and annual performance goals/evaluations of all parents can be instituted.)

In Texas you're almost guaranteed liberty in homeschooling. You need to have some written curriculum to show that you're teaching 3 things--reading, writing, and, I think, civics. (Maybe reading, arithmetic, and civics. Don't feel like googling it now.) This has been construed rather broadly on the side of homeschoolers; principals, who want enrollment and are former teachers, convinced that only they can teach and only they truly are able to love kids and love all kids more than their parents ever can--thousands of nameless faces at a time, but pure, true love--usually try to push enforcement. There's a group in Texas to support homeschooling parents in their legal defense.

US Christian Madrassas - n/t lapfog_1 Mar 2012 #1
Absolutely get the red out Mar 2012 #6
Consequences of "home schooling". no_hypocrisy Mar 2012 #2
The other side Skelly Mar 2012 #7
When it works well, it works very well spinbaby Mar 2012 #13
My problem is my client is being punished for homeschooling (to the best of her ability). no_hypocrisy Mar 2012 #22
Home Schooling has its good and bad points fasttense Mar 2012 #3
A lot of it depends upon the child Alcibiades Mar 2012 #9
I've seen this a few times. Igel Mar 2012 #23
Isolation is what it is all about when religion is the issue. n/t Bonhomme Richard Mar 2012 #4
Faux Newz and Rush will take up the slack and turn them into good little... freshwest Mar 2012 #5
This isn't so much a home schooling issue as it is a religious fanaticism issue. teewrex Mar 2012 #8
There are good and bad homeschoolers, private schools, public schools, etc. jhasp Mar 2012 #10
quality of the teacher d_r Mar 2012 #11
Still a state issue? Skelly Mar 2012 #16
Oversight is the issue. Igel Mar 2012 #24
I worry more about the social 'isolation' that so many of the religiously sinkingfeeling Mar 2012 #12
Anything that teaches a kid to function in a bubble is a bad thing. Amerigo Vespucci Mar 2012 #19
I'd say anything that ultimately fails to teach kids to function outside their bubble is a bad thing Igel Mar 2012 #25
home schooling is not for everyone who WANTS IT mimitabby Mar 2012 #14
When I was in college Skelly Mar 2012 #21
True. I met illiterate home-schooled kids. shcrane71 Mar 2012 #15
I don't understand how/why Myrina Mar 2012 #17
Because the teams aren't academics. Igel Mar 2012 #26
We were partial home schoolers ProgressiveProfessor Mar 2012 #18
It is NOT just the narrow "Education Spectrum" that is important. bvar22 Mar 2012 #20
"Cannot"? Igel Mar 2012 #27
90% of your list Skelly Mar 2012 #28
I vehemently disagree. laundry_queen Mar 2012 #29
I expected Home Schoolers to disagree. bvar22 Mar 2012 #30
I am an avid homeschool parent and I see potential negatives with homeschooling jhasp Mar 2012 #31
All in all, bvar22 Mar 2012 #33
How many homeschoolers do you know? jhasp Mar 2012 #34
Homeschooling can be a reflection of control freak parents Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2012 #32
Being President of the PTA Skelly Mar 2012 #40
Many homeschool parents have a low level of education in the first place. Kablooie Mar 2012 #35
The magical age jhasp Mar 2012 #36
Do you have any statistics to back this up? jhasp Mar 2012 #37
It varies nxylas Mar 2012 #38
I used to volunteer in the library in my small California town. MineralMan Mar 2012 #39
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