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In reply to the discussion: The Fact-Checkers Are Clueless [View all]Uncle Joe
(58,703 posts)21. Gothmog's video on post # 15 supports at least one of Jacobin's contentions
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Yes, he's "speaking about the American Peoples' savings" but giving precious little detail about....
George II
Aug 2018
#10
Using BERNIE'S PLAN, even the Mercatus report reflected two trillion dollars in savings,
Uncle Joe
Aug 2018
#13
Bernie is one of Vermont's U.S. Senators not the Governor of that fine state.
Uncle Joe
Aug 2018
#39
Actually, his refusal to talk about Green Mountain Care's failure, and possible lessons learned
ehrnst
Aug 2018
#31
Vermont is not an island in the ocean and has a small population to boot, it's not even a
Uncle Joe
Aug 2018
#48
When Bernie was citing two trillion dollars in savings for the American People listed in the
Uncle Joe
Aug 2018
#36
It's not a static world Hortensis what can't be achieved today can very well be done
Uncle Joe
Aug 2018
#51
It's a bill and Blahous of the Koch funded Mercatus Center based his findings
Uncle Joe
Aug 2018
#82
Did you listen to your own video Tapper either begins misleading or lies at about
Uncle Joe
Aug 2018
#19
Do you believe "government" and the "American People" are the same thing in regards to this issue?
Uncle Joe
Aug 2018
#22
Who pays for the 20% of medical bills that Medicare doesn't cover? It only covers 80%
brush
Aug 2018
#42
Who pays for the bills that the uninsured leave at the emergency room doorstep?
Uncle Joe
Aug 2018
#44
I'm asking a serious question. If you don't know if Medicare for all pays for it just say so.
brush
Aug 2018
#45
It is almost as if someone WANTS universal to fail, ultimately. Or that it should be
Eliot Rosewater
Aug 2018
#28
I was under the assumption that Sanders' bill was conceptual in nature with very few....
George II
Aug 2018
#7
The author makes assumptions on what the medical community will or won't do and from whence does he
Uncle Joe
Aug 2018
#40
Here's a video of Tapper changing Bernie and Alexandria's claim but don't believe your own eyes
Uncle Joe
Aug 2018
#8
Here is what Ricardo Alonzo-Zaldivar from AP has to say about the Mercatus Center paper:
George II
Aug 2018
#18
Bernie said "that wasn't what the study intended to do but it was in the study"
Uncle Joe
Aug 2018
#43
I'll believe factcheck.org and/or Politifact over any politician when they disagree.
ehrnst
Aug 2018
#57
And the substance of the article refers to the "fact checkers' and backs up it's assertions.
Uncle Joe
Aug 2018
#65
This isn't a tweet! The Medicare for All Bill, Mercatus report, Bernie's truthful response,
Uncle Joe
Aug 2018
#70
Fact checking IS fact checking, that's the point, so we're checking the facts of the fact checkers
Uncle Joe
Aug 2018
#72
When you post conspiracy theory worthy, unsubstantiated claims about the free press
ehrnst
Aug 2018
#73
I believe you and I have used many of the same posts over the course of our debates
Uncle Joe
Aug 2018
#117
I've cited Sach's analysis on CNN as well but you have yet to respond to his article
Uncle Joe
Aug 2018
#120
Your very OP concerns the Mercatus study, and the fact checking of Bernie's claims about it.
ehrnst
Aug 2018
#121
Sanders clearly didn't contact Blahous before making his statement on the study.
ehrnst
Aug 2018
#83
I have a feeling that talking points were rolled out based on a superficial reading
lapucelle
Aug 2018
#86
That's Blahous' opinion NOT based on the requirements of the BILL it's just an
Uncle Joe
Aug 2018
#94
Still no answer to how the author of the study is not credible enough to understand
ehrnst
Aug 2018
#113
Why use the word "cherry picked" when citing the results of study of the actual BILL.
Uncle Joe
Aug 2018
#88
There were two aspects of this report one pertaining to the ACTUAL bill which reflects savings of
Uncle Joe
Aug 2018
#96
There are KNOWN aspects of the bill to which Blahous chose to ignore in his second scenario
Uncle Joe
Aug 2018
#108
As the author said, Sanders chose a number presented as "unlikely" according to the study.
ehrnst
Aug 2018
#92
Bernie chose the number from the grading of his actual bill and what about this?
Uncle Joe
Aug 2018
#99
I just presented evidence from economist Jeffrey Sachs stating of at least three major dynamics not
Uncle Joe
Aug 2018
#106
And I presented to you Blahous' statement on the conclusions that were not supported by his study.
ehrnst
Aug 2018
#110
Bernie was pointing to "An Inconvenient Truth" WITHIN the study because he believed
Uncle Joe
Aug 2018
#122
The only possibility based in the real world was the analysis of the actual BILL not
Uncle Joe
Aug 2018
#98
So he's not "competent enough" to come up with a scenario that proves Bernie's numbers...
ehrnst
Aug 2018
#101
Indeed. Bernie's own projections are not as fleshed out, and he is not a policy analyst.
ehrnst
Aug 2018
#107
The study was purely binary, Bernie has wisely proposed a whole range of funding options and
Uncle Joe
Aug 2018
#126