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struggle4progress

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81. How dare The Guardian take the view Assange should just go face the Swedish allegations!

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:27 PM

Aug 2012

It's disgraceful! How dare a Stockholm court order Assange's arrest! How dare the Swedish Court of Appeals uphold the arrest order! And how dare the Swedish authorities take out a warrant against him! Shame, shame, shame! This is Assange, the great and terrible! Nobody can expect him to be subject to the rule governing ordinary mortals! How dare the UK arrest him on the basis of the warrant! How dare they impose conditions on him when releasing him on bail! How dare the Westminster Magistrates’ Court find against him! What the hell is wrong with them? How dare the High Court find against him! Don't those scurvy blighters know the law? How dare the Supreme Court find against him! Just who do they all think they are! Assange doesn't have time for this!

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Julian Assange: the balcony defence (Guardian editorial) [View all] struggle4progress Aug 2012 OP

And you are gloating about this, why? Cleita Aug 2012 #1

This is actually a major diplomatic incident. Sweden took out a warrant and defended it struggle4progress Aug 2012 #6

The Guardian is a left of center news outlet and I'm quite familiar with it. Cleita Aug 2012 #9

This guy is a little strange.... movonne Aug 2012 #29

"There's no evidence that the UK is a lawless state," cprise Aug 2012 #37

If there were a complete breakdown of the rule of law in the UK, such that struggle4progress Aug 2012 #38

If it were really about the rape charge, Sweden would question Assange in the JDPriestly Aug 2012 #53

You misunderstand what "questioning" means here: the Swedish prosecutor has determined struggle4progress Aug 2012 #57

The amount of money Sweden has spent on this case is way out of JDPriestly Aug 2012 #60

"I believe Swedes have lots of drunken sex so Assange must be innocent!" struggle4progress Aug 2012 #61

As I explained to someone earlier, unless Sweden has a very low standard JDPriestly Aug 2012 #65

The allegations are indeed best tried in Swedish court, not in the press or on a chatboard struggle4progress Aug 2012 #67

Honestly! How much clearer can I make it. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #68

... a valid European Arrest Warrant .. has to be enforced as a matter of international law ... struggle4progress Aug 2012 #69

but that does not mean that the charges are anything more than JDPriestly Aug 2012 #70

According to these women, he sexually assaulted them, and he's avoiding pnwmom Aug 2012 #11

My question exactly. He isn't being subjected to the same laws as Cleita Aug 2012 #15

If you believe "The time line proves it" then put the timeline beside your argument struggle4progress Aug 2012 #22

I think I already gave you or someone a link to Cenk's Cleita Aug 2012 #71

What evidence could the women bring to prove their claims. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #66

I would assume so if standard legal practices are followed. Cleita Aug 2012 #72

Thanks. I was beginning to feel very lonely here. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #73

It may be that in Sweden, the prosecutor and judge conduct the investigation JDPriestly Aug 2012 #74

Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #2

Tell us more MrScorpio Aug 2012 #3

MrScorpio... a geek named Bob Aug 2012 #4

Up at the upper left corner is a Google search window, type my user name in there and have at it MrScorpio Aug 2012 #5

Welcome to DU. n/t Cleita Aug 2012 #7

THERE WAS NO RAPE. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #8

I do not know how you would know the actual facts in this case. Perhaps you have ESP? struggle4progress Aug 2012 #10

The Women are against charging him and NEVER accused him or rape. Odin2005 Aug 2012 #12

The women's lawyer said in June that they want him investigated for rape. pnwmom Aug 2012 #14

Investigating him for rape is quite different than charging him. n/t Cleita Aug 2012 #16

Of course they want him charged. That's why they want him to be investigated. pnwmom Aug 2012 #20

And so concerned are they for the two women cprise Aug 2012 #39

There were two different women with two separate sets of allegations, pnwmom Aug 2012 #40

My understanding is both cprise Aug 2012 #43

There is no such thing as an "otherwise consensual situation" pnwmom Aug 2012 #44

Borgstrom is, apparently, controversial himself. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #56

If the women do oppose charging him, then Assange will quickly walk away scot-free in Sweden struggle4progress Aug 2012 #18

Why is Karl Rove an advisor to the Swedish government in this matter? cprise Aug 2012 #41

Probably for his expertise in the propaganda and astroturf game, HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #42

"The other woman wanted to report rape. I gave my testimony to support her story" struggle4progress Aug 2012 #58

Funny. This phrase is very familiar to me. I think someone posted almost the JDPriestly Aug 2012 #54

Maybe not-having-ESP has finally become cool struggle4progress Aug 2012 #64

The particulars at least one woman described fit the legal definition pnwmom Aug 2012 #13

He is still only wanted for questioning, not to face charges. Cleita Aug 2012 #17

"... As a matter of fact ... this person passes the threshold of being an �accused� person struggle4progress Aug 2012 #19

Since when is an alleged rapist allowed to dictate the terms of an investigation? n/t pnwmom Aug 2012 #21

I wish we could get such zeal in the prosecution of violent rapes JDPriestly Aug 2012 #59

Surprise-surprise: Assange's accusers have ties with the CIA 99th_Monkey Aug 2012 #23

It's quite neanderthal to launch such personal attacks to defend against sexual assault allegations: struggle4progress Aug 2012 #24

Please see 99th_Monkey Aug 2012 #25

Your first link is to an unsourced claim by another DUer, to the effect that the women struggle4progress Aug 2012 #26

Contrary to consensus reality 99th_Monkey Aug 2012 #27

If Four Corners is right, then the Swedish prosecutors will quickly be done with Assange struggle4progress Aug 2012 #30

Then why won't Swedish Guv-mint promise to not extradite JA to USA?? 99th_Monkey Aug 2012 #31

Assange is wanted in connection with allegations of criminal offenses in Sweden. The Swedes by now struggle4progress Aug 2012 #33

Well, you obviously have your mind made up. 99th_Monkey Aug 2012 #34

There's no extradition request from the US. If the US requested extradition of Assange struggle4progress Aug 2012 #35

No it is not a free pass and you know it cprise Aug 2012 #45

That's way too much truth for one OP. Plz STFU. 99th_Monkey Aug 2012 #48

well done 99th_Monkey Aug 2012 #47

who are you...and why won't you read the facts...he said he would movonne Aug 2012 #28

You are perhaps another advocate of Assange's strange theories of international law? struggle4progress Aug 2012 #32

can you point me to a single country that would grant a blanket pardon of sorts to Bodhi BloodWave Aug 2012 #36

Given Sweden's and US's record of extraordinary rendition and torture HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #46

yet more conspiracy over an honest answer, why am i not surprised. n/t Bodhi BloodWave Aug 2012 #49

Its fact, not conspiracy. HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #50

i'll keep fighting for justice for the two women n/t Bodhi BloodWave Aug 2012 #51

The two women who denied they were raped? HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #52

"The other woman wanted to report rape. I gave my testimony to support her story" struggle4progress Aug 2012 #55

based on one of the only news articles that has one of the ladies interviewed i'd say you're wrong Bodhi BloodWave Aug 2012 #62

how truly honorable frylock Aug 2012 #80

Or a professional. HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #63

Google Operation Mockingbird AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #77

Wikileaks and Guardian are not in best terms tama Aug 2012 #75

Just part of the anti-Assange spamathon. n/t AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #76

It's an editorial from The Guardian about a current event struggle4progress Aug 2012 #78

Just "an editorial"? Or an anti-Assange editorial selected by you for your anti-Assange campaign? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #79

How dare The Guardian take the view Assange should just go face the Swedish allegations! struggle4progress Aug 2012 #81

Who cares? AnotherMcIntosh Aug 2012 #82

You have purposefully ignored tama Aug 2012 #83

The Man Who Spilled the Secrets (Vanity Fair | February 2011) struggle4progress Aug 2012 #84