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Wed Jan 15, 2014, 09:28 AM Jan 2014

Shock as sardines vanish off California - the entire Pacific coast - NOAA: We don’t know why [View all]

http://enenews.com/theyre-all-gone-shock-as-sardines-vanish-off-california-fishermen-didnt-find-a-single-one-all-summer-scientist-this-is-about-the-entire-pacific-coast-noaa-the-young

“They’re All Gone”: Shock as sardines vanish off California — Fishermen didn’t find a single one all summer — Scientist: This is about the entire Pacific coast… Canada, Mexico, U.S. — NOAA: We don’t know why; The young aren’t surviving

Published: January 14th, 2014 at 8:16 pm ET

  • Long Beach Press Telegram, Jan. 13, 2014: Sardine vanish off the coast; squid and anchovy fill the void for fishermen — (Larry Derr) has pulled up (Pacific sardines) by the ton since the 1980s ... it was a shock when he couldn’t find one of the shiny silver-blue coastal fish all summer ... anchovies have proven a poor replacement since sardines became scarce. Fortunately, a boom in market squid has propelled Derr and other coastal pelagic fishers. ... Some have attributed recent rashes of sea lion pup and pelican deaths to the sardine population decline, which began a few years ago and was officially recognized in December ... “Everybody’s calling me every day for sardines,” Derr said. “They’re all gone. Even Monterey Bay Aquarium is still waiting for some to restock one of their exhibits.” ...

  • Kerry Griffin, NOAA: “Is it El Nino? Pacific Decadal Oscillation? El Nina? Long-term climate change? More marine mammals eating sardines? Did they all go to Mexico or farther offshore? We don’t know.”

  • Russ Vetter, NOAA: “They haven’t had a good recruitment ... You have to have adults that produce the eggs and then environmental conditions that would allow them to grow and then to not have them eaten by pelicans and terns, etc. It’s always complicated about why a fish egg doesn’t make it through the problems but we do know that, when the ocean is on the cooler side, conditions aren’t right.”

  • Geoff Shester, scientist with Oceana: “This is about the entire Pacific coast including the U.S. and Mexico, not just British Columbia ... If fishermen have stopped fishing because they’ve hit their quota, that’s one thing. But they’re stopping because they can’t find any fish. That means fishery management is failing. ... We’re in an emergency situation right now. Any fishing is overfishing when the stock is in this condition.”


See also: L.A. Times: Alarming West Coast sardine crash likely radiating through ecosystem -- Experts warn marine mammals and seabirds are starving, may suffer for years to come -- Boats return without a single fish -- Monterey Bay: Hard to resist idea that humpback whales are trying to tell us something


Related Posts

  • Sardine population plummets along U.S. West Coast — AP: Collapse of species feared — “Canadian Pacific fishermen catch no sardines in 2013″ November 4, 2013

  • ‘Troubling Mystery’: Complete collapse of sardine population on West Coast of Canada around Vancouver — Official: It’s ‘unexpected’ — Expert: Humpback whales rarely seen, they’re telling us something changed… nobody knows what’s going on October 15, 2013

  • Study: High concentrations of Fukushima radioactive material will reach west coast of North America — “Entire coast” to be affected from Alaska to Mexico — “Can negatively affect human life for decades… should raise concern” (MODEL) September 23, 2013

  • L.A. Times: Alarming West Coast sardine crash likely radiating through ecosystem — Experts warn marine mammals and seabirds are starving, may suffer for years to come — Boats return without a single fish — Monterey Bay: Hard to resist idea that humpback whales are trying to tell us something January 5, 2014

  • Experts: “Really an off year” — Pelicans starving in Pacific Northwest since 2011, killing baby birds for food — Breeding success “really poor” since 2011 — “I believe pelicans are responding to large scale changes” — “Sardine crash” persists in Pacific since decline in 2011 December 22, 2013


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on to the next feed-stock for the Soylent factories phantom power Jan 2014 #1
But it has nothing to do with Fukishema... zeemike Jan 2014 #2
Agreed yorokmok Jan 2014 #7
Maybe there we just a lot of pizzas ordered underpants Jan 2014 #8
Anchovies. ANCHOVIES! OnyxCollie Jan 2014 #10
Oh underpants Jan 2014 #19
I eat a tin of anchovies and a tin of smoked oysters for breakfast every day. OnyxCollie Jan 2014 #21
You know you don't do that. loudsue Jan 2014 #49
Fisheries off Japan aren't having similar problems. jeff47 Jan 2014 #13
no problems off japans coast? questionseverything Jan 2014 #24
One fish is not an entire fishery. jeff47 Jan 2014 #26
more from the article questionseverything Jan 2014 #29
You should try actually reading posts jeff47 Jan 2014 #32
Is this sarcasm? another_liberal Jan 2014 #30
That post was not mine, but it still wasn't Fukushima jeff47 Jan 2014 #35
Your logic does seem convincing . . . another_liberal Jan 2014 #36
Japan has sardines fisheries too. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2014 #38
in 2012 questionseverything Jan 2014 #45
Yes, but the fishery is still there. jeff47 Jan 2014 #46
Yes it is sarcasm zeemike Jan 2014 #47
Is everyone afraid to mention the word "pollution"? gtar100 Jan 2014 #3
You nailed it. Must never mention business. Blinders on! n/t freshwest Jan 2014 #15
The Domino Effect of Overfishing on Ocean Habitat: Many Species at Risk dixiegrrrrl Jan 2014 #4
K&R DeSwiss Jan 2014 #5
k and r --bookmarking for later reading. niyad Jan 2014 #6
This article suggests that the phenomena is not new nor unexpected grantcart Jan 2014 #9
You win the thread. Greed and overfishing, followed by protestations of 'IDK why! Help!' n/t freshwest Jan 2014 #16
Big Problem with that RobertEarl Jan 2014 #34
There is absolutely no scientific problem with the explanation, grantcart Jan 2014 #42
You bring up a good point RobertEarl Jan 2014 #43
This article is pegging my BS meter clayton72 Jan 2014 #11
This AP article? bananas Jan 2014 #18
I think this is a lie MyNameGoesHere Jan 2014 #12
Radiation, Japan, fish decline packman Jan 2014 #14
The sardines Berlin Expat Jan 2014 #22
Unbelievable, only one thread even mentions Fukishima! WORLDWIDE blackout of obvious cause. joanbarnes Jan 2014 #17
beause it has happened before and the reason is well known. grantcart Jan 2014 #20
with nuclear power questionseverything Jan 2014 #27
No one is saying radiation is good..... paleotn Jan 2014 #31
A banana expert? RobertEarl Jan 2014 #44
Seems reading comprehension.... paleotn Jan 2014 #48
So, you'll quit with the BED bullshit? RobertEarl Jan 2014 #52
If Fukishima is the cause, why have fisheries off Japan not collapsed? jeff47 Jan 2014 #33
They quit fishing off the coast of Japan RobertEarl Jan 2014 #37
Hey Robert! Looks like your time-traveling radiation took out another fishery jeff47 Jan 2014 #39
As usual you have no data RobertEarl Jan 2014 #41
Please stop posting crap from ENE as if it's a legitimate source of information. I am sick ChisolmTrailDem Jan 2014 #23
Nothing to do with Fukashima.... paleotn Jan 2014 #25
Wasn't there an enormous sardine cluster in Monterey Bay in the fall? Arugula Latte Jan 2014 #28
It is of note that Cs was high the last time the stock crashed RobertEarl Jan 2014 #40
Guess you missed these parts...... paleotn Jan 2014 #50
No. Didn't miss it RobertEarl Jan 2014 #53
Facts can sometimes help .... but it depends on posters intent ... MindMover Jan 2014 #51
Intent, indeed RobertEarl Jan 2014 #54
To make informed factual posts ... so to avoid MindMover Jan 2014 #56
What is absurd RobertEarl Jan 2014 #57
I will leave the absurdities to the absurd ... as for denial ... MindMover Jan 2014 #59
My defensive platitudes RobertEarl Jan 2014 #60
Skeptoid doesn't understand entropy bananas Jan 2014 #58
Here's the problem, mm RobertEarl Jan 2014 #62
These scientists aren't cognizant of the devastating oceanic ecosystem effects of kestrel91316 Jan 2014 #55
I'm sure it's nothing. Enthusiast Jan 2014 #61
Message auto-removed Name removed Jan 2014 #63
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