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stockholmer

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Tue Jan 31, 2012, 03:22 PM Jan 2012

Breaking:5 Major US banks face massive (trillions) default on credit default swaps within weeks [View all]



The 5 US largest banks have 96% of credit default swaps out there. As Euro defaults kick in, parties become contractually obligated to make huge payouts to the relevant derivative partners. We are talking amounts potentially in the tens of TRILLIONS, due to insane levels of leverage. Morgan Stanley will be the first to go, followed by Wells Fargo, Citibank, and JP Morgan. Goldman Sachs, as usual, is the least exposed if a credit default event is declared, IMHO.

Watch the actions of ISDA, (International Swaps and Derivatives Association) http://www2.isda.org/ they in charge of determining when a "credit event" occurs.

The interviewee, Jim Sinclair, is a billionaire, 50+ year investor, one of the 'old lions' of Wall Street. Sinclair’s father, Bert Seligman was the business partner of the legendary Jesse Livermore, the "Great Bear of Wall Street" (Livermore traded from the 1890's to 1940).



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I would not mind seeing these banks go down the tubes tabatha Jan 2012 #1
Don't worry. Those banks won't go down until the day OffWithTheirHeads Jan 2012 #3
Gawd I hope Obama does not do something about this that would blow Nov. NAO Jan 2012 #2
What will happen? BlueToTheBone Jan 2012 #4
see my new boildown post below. Either way ISDA calls it, there will be huge ramifications, & Greece stockholmer Jan 2012 #8
Your analysis could use a bit of work jeff47 Jan 2012 #10
A further boildown: It will be the big banks (who control ISDA) vs everybody else (pension funds, stockholmer Jan 2012 #5
Reading some European blogs over the past several months, this is not a surprise really. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #6
Doesn't it have to be a forced 'haircut' Owlet Jan 2012 #7
the creditors (just about every conceivable type, including massive pension funds, etc) are balking stockholmer Jan 2012 #9
The quadrillion dollar question.... Cartaphelius Jan 2012 #11
yes, shred the derivatives, have a general debt jubilee,nationalize ALL the central banks, which are stockholmer Feb 2012 #12
amazing information and thank you xiamiam Feb 2012 #13
thanks so much for the kind words, Im just a student of what Peter Dale Scott calls 'deep politics' stockholmer Feb 2012 #16
tack sa mycket! Demeter Feb 2012 #15
varsågod! stockholmer Feb 2012 #17
Holy shit! Thank you Stockholmer. Well done. n/t Hotler Feb 2012 #14
Canada's National Bank PDJane Feb 2012 #18
What does it really mean for the guy on the street. Badsam Feb 2012 #19
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