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stockholmer

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12. yes, shred the derivatives, have a general debt jubilee,nationalize ALL the central banks, which are
Wed Feb 1, 2012, 03:13 AM
Feb 2012

now owned by a few private networks. At the epicenter how will find the same 30 to 50 global families/networks over and over, inside thousands of layers of centuries-long indirect control , shell corporations, central bank ownership, sovereign debt (thus nation state) control, etc.


The old family foundations need to be dismantled (Rockefeller, Ford, Rhodes, Carnegie, etc etc etc), then you take out or nationalize the BIS (the most powerful financial entity in the world, it is the central banks' central bank), the IMF, World Bank, Fed Reserve, ECB, Bank of England, BOC, The City of London Crown Corporations (these are NOT the Royal family per se, but the royals are partial owners), the CFR and its parent, the Royal Institute for Foreign Affairs, etc etc.

Names? Here are some (many of these network/families are centuries old, and are now in the shadows, whilst still retaining untold power) :

You then slam the heads of these networks of systemic control all in a trial dock, then a cell or a noose (I am anti death penalty, but I think the world will not be so forgiving for the hundreds of millions of deaths these scum have caused over the last 500 to 700 years or so) .......... the Lazards, Oppenheimers, Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Barings, Seligmans, the Speyers, Mirabauds, Mallets, Foulds, Erlangers, Morgans, Schiffs, the house of Li Ka-shing (China), House of Kwok (China), the Bundys, Collins, Cecils, van Duyns, Freemans, DuPonts, Mitals (India), Krupps, Schroders, Kuhns, Loebs, Seifs (Italy), Astors, Saxe-Coberg Gothas (the British Royal House of Windsor), den Huis van Oranje-Nassau (Royal House of Holland), Sassoons, Orsinis, Somaglias, Breakspears, Aldobraninis, Farneses, and Warburgs at the lead.

That will be a start, I think there is a chance the world will find levels even above these. Names we have never heard of perhaps. I leave that to the discovery process.

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Here is chart of ownership of the US Federal Reserve, courtesy of your own US Congress:

http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/federal_reserve.shtml

Federal Reserve Directors: A Study of Corporate and Banking Influence. Staff Report,Committee on Banking,Currency and Housing, House of Representatives, 94th Congress, 2nd Session, August 1976.


N.M. Rothschild , London - Bank of England
______________________________________
| |
| J. Henry Schroder
| Banking | Corp.
| |
Brown, Shipley - Morgan Grenfell - Lazard - |
& Company & Company Brothers |
| | | |
--------------------| -------| | |
| | | | | |
Alex Brown - Brown Bros. - Lord Mantagu - Morgan et Cie -- Lazard ---|
& Son | Harriman Norman | Paris Bros |
| | / | N.Y. |
| | | | | |
| Governor, Bank | J.P. Morgan Co -- Lazard ---|
| of England / N.Y. Morgan Freres |
| 1924-1938 / Guaranty Co. Paris |
| / Morgan Stanley Co. | /
| / | \Schroder Bank
| / | Hamburg/Berlin
| / Drexel & Company /
| / Philadelphia /
| / /
| / Lord Airlie
| / /
| / M. M. Warburg Chmn J. Henry Schroder
| | Hamburg --------- marr. Virginia F. Ryan
| | | grand-daughter of Otto
| | | Kahn of Kuhn Loeb Co.
| | |
| | |
Lehman Brothers N.Y -------------- Kuhn Loeb Co. N. Y.
| | --------------------------
| | | |
| | | |
Lehman Brothers - Mont. Alabama Solomon Loeb Abraham Kuhn
| | __|______________________|_________
Lehman-Stern, New Orleans Jacob Schiff/Theresa Loeb Nina Loeb/Paul Warburg
- ------------------------- | | |
| | Mortimer Schiff James Paul Warburg
_____________|_______________/ |
| | | | |
Mayer Lehman | Emmanuel Lehman \
| | | \
Herbert Lehman Irving Lehman \
| | | \
Arthur Lehman \ Phillip Lehman John Schiff/Edith Brevoort Baker
/ | Present Chairman Lehman Bros
/ Robert Owen Lehman Kuhn Loeb - Granddaughter of
/ | George F. Baker
| / |
| / |
| / Lehman Bros Kuhn Loeb (1980)
| / |
| / Thomas Fortune Ryan
| | |
| | |
Federal Reserve Bank Of New York |
|||||||| |
______National City Bank N. Y. |
| | |
| National Bank of Commerce N.Y ---|
| | \
| Hanover National Bank N.Y. \
| | \
| Chase National Bank N.Y. \
| |
| |
Shareholders - National City Bank - N.Y. |
- ----------------------------------------- |
| /
James Stillman /
Elsie m. William Rockefeller /
Isabel m. Percy Rockefeller /
William Rockefeller Shareholders - National Bank of Commerce N. Y.
J. P. Morgan -----------------------------------------------
M.T. Pyne Equitable Life - J.P. Morgan
Percy Pyne Mutual Life - J.P. Morgan
J.W. Sterling H.P. Davison - J. P. Morgan
NY Trust/NY Edison Mary W. Harriman
Shearman & Sterling A.D. Jiullard - North British Merc. Insurance
| Jacob Schiff
| Thomas F. Ryan
| Paul Warburg
| Levi P. Morton - Guaranty Trust - J. P. Morgan
|
|
Shareholders - First National Bank of N.Y.
- -------------------------------------------
J.P. Morgan
George F. Baker
George F. Baker Jr.
Edith Brevoort Baker
US Congress - 1946-64
|
|
|
|
|
Shareholders - Hanover National Bank N.Y.
- ------------------------------------------
James Stillman
William Rockefeller
|
|
|
|
|
Shareholders - Chase National Bank N.Y.
- ---------------------------------------
George F. Baker



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Chart 2
Source: ** Federal Reserve Directors: A Study of Corporate and Banking Influence ** - - Published 1983

The J. Henry Schroder Banking Company chart encompasses the entire history of the twentieth century, embracing as it does the program (Belgium Relief Commission) which provisioned Germany from 1915-1918 and dissuaded Germany from seeking peace in 1916; financing Hitler in 1933 so as to make a Second World War possible; backing the Presidential campaign of Herbert Hoover ; and even at the present time, having two of its major executives of its subsidiary firm, Bechtel Corporation serving as Secretary of Defense and Secretary of State in the Reagan Administration.

The head of the Bank of England since 1973, Sir Gordon Richardson, Governor of the Bank of England (controlled by the House of Rothschild) was chairman of J. Henry Schroder Wagg and Company of London from 1963-72, and director of J. Henry Schroder, New York and Schroder Banking Corporation, New York, as well as Lloyd's Bank of London, and Rolls Royce. He maintains a residence on Sutton Place in New York City, and as head of "The London Connection," can be said to be the single most influential banker in the world.

J. Henry Schroder
-----------------
|
|
|
Baron Rudolph Von Schroder
Hamburg - 1858 - 1934
|
|
|
Baron Bruno Von Schroder
Hamburg - 1867 - 1940
F. C. Tiarks |
1874-1952 |
| |
marr. Emma Franziska |
(Hamburg) Helmut B. Schroder
J. Henry Schroder 1902 |
Dir. Bank of England |
Dir. Anglo-Iranian |
Oil Company J. Henry Schroder Banking Company N.Y.
|
|
J. Henry Schroder Trust Company N.Y.
|
|
|
___________________|____________________
| |
Allen Dulles John Foster Dulles
Sullivan & Cromwell Sullivan & Cromwell
Director - CIA U. S. Secretary of State
Rockefeller Foundation
Prentiss Gray
------------
Belgian Relief Comm. Lord Airlie
Chief Marine Transportation -----------
US Food Administration WW I Chairman; Virgina Fortune
Manati Sugar Co. American & Ryan daughter of Otto Kahn
British Continental Corp. of Kuhn,Loeb Co.
| |
| |
M. E. Rionda |
------------ |
Pres. Cuba Cane Sugar Co. |
Manati Sugar Co. many other |
sugar companies. _______|
| |
| |
G. A. Zabriskie |
--------------- | Emile Francoui
Chmn U.S. Sugar Equalization | --------------
Board 1917-18; Pres Empire | Belgian Relief Comm. Kai
Biscuit Co., Columbia Baking | Ping Coal Mines, Tientsin
Co. , Southern Baking Co. | Railroad,Congo Copper, La
| Banque Nationale de Belgique
Suite 2000 42 Broadway | N. Y |
__________________________|___________________________|
| | |
| | |
Edgar Richard Julius H. Barnes Herbert Hoover
------------- ---------------- --------------
Belgium Relief Comm Belgium Relief Comm Chmn Belgium Relief Com
Amer Relief Comm Pres Grain Corp. U.S. Food Admin
U.S. Food Admin U.S. Food Admin Sec of Commerce 1924-28
1918-24, Hazeltine Corp. 1917-18, C.B Pitney Kaiping Coal Mines
| Bowes Corp, Manati Congo Copper, President
| Sugar Corp. U.S. 1928-32
|
|
|
John Lowery Simpson
- -------------------
Sacramento,Calif Belgium Relief |
Comm. U. S. Food Administration Baron Kurt Von Schroder
Prentiss Gray Co. J. Henry Schroder -----------------------
Trust, Schroder-Rockefeller, Chmn Schroder Banking Corp. J.H. Stein
Fin Comm, Bechtel International Bankhaus (Hitler's personal bank
Co. Bechtel Co. (Casper Weinberger account) served on board of all
Sec of Defense, George P. Schultz German subsidiaries of ITT . Bank
Sec of State (Reagan Admin). for International Settlements,
| SS Senior Group Leader,Himmler's
| Circle of Friends (Nazi Fund),
| Deutsche Reichsbank,president
|
|
Schroder-Rockefeller & Co. , N.Y.
- ---------------------------------
Avery Rockefeller, J. Henry Schroder
Banking Corp., Bechtel Co., Bechtel
International Co. , Canadian Bechtel
Company. |
|
|
|
Gordon Richardson
-----------------
Governor, Bank of England
1973-PRESENT C.B. of J. Henry Schroder N.Y.
Schroder Banking Co., New York, Lloyds Bank
Rolls Royce



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Chart 3
Source: ** Federal Reserve Directors: A Study of Corporate and Banking Influence ** - - Published 1976

The David Rockefeller chart shows the link between the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, Standard Oil of Indiana, General Motors and Allied Chemical Corportion (Eugene Meyer family) and Equitable Life (J. P. Morgan).


DAVID ROCKEFELLER
- ----------------------------
Chairman of the Board
Chase Manhattan Corp
|
|
______|_______________________
Chase Manhattan Corp. |
Officer & Director Interlocks|---------------------
------|----------------------- |
| |
Private Investment Co. for America Allied Chemicals Corp.
| |
Firestone Tire & Rubber Company General Motors
| |
Orion Multinational Services Ltd. Rockefeller Family & Associates
| |
ASARCO. Inc Chrysler Corp.
| |
Southern Peru Copper Corp. Intl' Basic Economy Corp.
| |
Industrial Minerva Mexico S.A. R.H. Macy & Co.
| |
Continental Corp. Selected Risk Investments S.A.
| |
Honeywell Inc. Omega Fund, Inc.
| |
Northwest Airlines, Inc. Squibb Corporation
| |
Northwestern Bell Telephone Co. Olin Foundation
| |
Minnesota Mining & Mfg Co (3M) Mutual Benefit Life Ins. Co. of NJ
| |
American Express Co. AT & T
| |
Hewlett Packard Pacific Northwestern Bell Co.
| |
FMC Corporation BeachviLime Ltd.
| |
Utah Intl' Inc. Eveleth Expansion Company
| |
Exxon Corporation Fidelity Union Bancorporation
| |
International Nickel/Canada Cypress Woods Corporation
| |
Federated Capital Corporation Intl' Minerals & Chemical Corp.
| |
Equitable Life Assurance Soc U.S. Burlington Industries
| |
Federated Dept Stores Wachovia Corporation
| |
General Electric Jefferson Pilot Corporation
| |
Scott Paper Co. R. J. Reynolds Industries Inc.
| |
American Petroleum Institute United States Steel Corp.
| |
Richardson Merril Inc. Metropolitan Life Insurance Co.
| |
May Department Stores Co. Norton-Simon Inc.
| |
Sperry Rand Corporation Stone-Webster Inc.
| |
San Salvador Development Company Standard Oil of Indiana



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Chart 4
** Federal Reserve Directors: A Study of Corporate and Banking Influence ** - - Published 1976

This chart shows the interlocks between the Federal Reserve Bank of New York J. Henry Schroder Banking Corp., J. Henry Schroder Trust Co., Rockefeller Center, Inc., Equitable Life Assurance Society ( J.P. Morgan), and the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston.


Alan Pifer, President
Carnegie Corporation
of New York
- ----------------------
|
|
- ----------------------
Carnegie Corporation
Trustee Interlocks --------------------------
---------------------- |
| |
Rockefeller Center, Inc J. Henry Schroder Trust Company
| |
The Cabot Corporation Paul Revere Investors, Inc.
| |
Federal Reserve Bank of Boston Qualpeco, Inc.
|
Owens Corning Fiberglas
|
New England Telephone Co.
|
Fisher Scientific Company
|
Mellon National Corporation
|
Equitable Life Assurance Society
|
Twentieth Century Fox Corporation
|
J. Henry Schroder Banking Corporation



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Chart 5
Source: ** Federal Reserve Directors: A Study of Corporate and Banking Influence ** - - Published 1976

This chart shows the link between the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, Brown Brothers Harriman,Sun Life Assurance Co. (N.M. Rothschild and Sons), and the Rockefeller Foundation.


Maurice F. Granville
Chairman of The Board
Texaco Incorporated
- ----------------------
|
|
Texaco Officer & Director Interlocks ---------- Liggett & Myers, Inc.
- ------------------------------------ |
| |
| |
L Arabian American Oil Company St John d'el Ray Mining Co. Ltd.
O | |
N Brown Brothers Harriman & Co. National Steel Corporation
D | |
O Brown Harriman & Intl' Banks Ltd. Massey-Ferguson Ltd.
N | |
American Express Mutual Life Insurance Co.
| |
N. American Express Intl' Banking Corp. Mass Mutual Income Investors Inc.
M. | |
Anaconda United Services Life Ins. Co.
R | |
O Rockefeller Foundation Fairchild Industries
T | |
H Owens-Corning Fiberglas Blount, Inc.
S | |
C National City Bank (Cleveland) William Wrigley Jr. Co
H | |
I Sun Life Assurance Co. National Blvd. Bank of Chicago
L | |
D General Reinsurance Lykes Youngstown Corporation
| |
General Electric (NBC) Inmount Corporation


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'Super-Entity' Of 147 Companies At Center Of World's Economy (complex physical modeling study from ETH Zurich University)

Bear in mind, this 2011 study is based on 2007 data, so the global 2008-onwards crash has even further consolidated control.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2011/10/24/super-entity-147-global-economy-swiss-researchers_n_1028690.html

http://www.forbes.com/sites/bruceupbin/2011/10/22/the-147-companies-that-control-everything/

Three systems theorists at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich have taken a database listing 37 million companies and investors worldwide and analyzed all 43,060 transnational corporations and share ownerships linking them. They built a model of who owns what and what their revenues are and mapped the whole edifice of economic power.

They discovered that global corporate control has a distinct bow-tie shape, with a dominant core of 147 firms radiating out from the middle. Each of these 147 own interlocking stakes of one another and together they control 40% of the wealth in the network. A total of 737 control 80% of it all. The top 20 are at the bottom of the post. This is, say the paper’s authors, the first map of the structure of global corporate control.

snip

The Report:

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/1107/1107.5728v2.pdf

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Good luck with getting any of this done, fighting this 500 to 700 year-entrenched level of systemic control.






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I would not mind seeing these banks go down the tubes tabatha Jan 2012 #1
Don't worry. Those banks won't go down until the day OffWithTheirHeads Jan 2012 #3
Gawd I hope Obama does not do something about this that would blow Nov. NAO Jan 2012 #2
What will happen? BlueToTheBone Jan 2012 #4
see my new boildown post below. Either way ISDA calls it, there will be huge ramifications, & Greece stockholmer Jan 2012 #8
Your analysis could use a bit of work jeff47 Jan 2012 #10
A further boildown: It will be the big banks (who control ISDA) vs everybody else (pension funds, stockholmer Jan 2012 #5
Reading some European blogs over the past several months, this is not a surprise really. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #6
Doesn't it have to be a forced 'haircut' Owlet Jan 2012 #7
the creditors (just about every conceivable type, including massive pension funds, etc) are balking stockholmer Jan 2012 #9
The quadrillion dollar question.... Cartaphelius Jan 2012 #11
yes, shred the derivatives, have a general debt jubilee,nationalize ALL the central banks, which are stockholmer Feb 2012 #12
amazing information and thank you xiamiam Feb 2012 #13
thanks so much for the kind words, Im just a student of what Peter Dale Scott calls 'deep politics' stockholmer Feb 2012 #16
tack sa mycket! Demeter Feb 2012 #15
varsågod! stockholmer Feb 2012 #17
Holy shit! Thank you Stockholmer. Well done. n/t Hotler Feb 2012 #14
Canada's National Bank PDJane Feb 2012 #18
What does it really mean for the guy on the street. Badsam Feb 2012 #19
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