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Ironing Man

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Tue Jun 14, 2016, 03:06 PM
Jun 2016

i'll admit to more than a whiff of that - i just don't get why anyone would genuinely think that Brexit would cure what they say is a problem without bringing much greater problems that they really won't like. its like finding myself in Wonderland where people are talking about how healthy it is to breate underwater and how Hyenas make excellent household pets.

if theres a leave vote, and as seems likely a leave vote will trigger a second, but this time successful indyref in Scotland, we might seriously consider Scotland (i lived in Scotland for 8 years, my eldest daughter still lives in Scotland) - this is not from some great love of the EU, nor a belief that an Independant Scotland will be a land of milk and honey where the Lion will frolic with the Lamb, rather that i genuinely think that Brexit will bring in huge economic recession or depression, and that we'll get some pretty unpleasant governments, a poisionous/toxic body politic, and that England and Wales will swing chaoticly from left to right to left and back again with each swing going further from propserity and civility. Scotland will feel the effects of that, but hopefully less so.

we're fortunate, we have transferable skills and capital - not to mention Australian and NZ passorts - we'd see how it went, we're not going to shoving stuff in the car on the 24th June, but it's something we'd keep an eye on and keep our options open.

It'd make it a worse place, but I wouldn't go that far muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #1
It's how I felt in America when Bush won his second term. auntpurl Jun 2016 #2
... Ironing Man Jun 2016 #3
Yeah, nothing is going to happen even if Leave wins for something like 3 years auntpurl Jun 2016 #4
So the UK's MEPs would just go on being MEPs? Ken Burch Jun 2016 #15
Yeah, they'll carry on until there's a formal exit muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #16
We've talked about Scotland too as we live in Northumberland, only one stop away. non sociopath skin Jun 2016 #6
I left in 1987. Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #5
Not an option for me but, until this week, I hadn't even considered that the Leavers might win. Nihil Jun 2016 #7
We've got a similar issue with elderly family auntpurl Jun 2016 #8
I sympathise. Nihil Jun 2016 #9
Good point. auntpurl Jun 2016 #10
Fucking Murdoch's Sun... Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #11
Not in any imminent future... LeftishBrit Jun 2016 #12
I don't think anyone has any real idea of what's going to happen if we Leave auntpurl Jun 2016 #13
FWIW, the bookies' odds still show 'leave' as most likely muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #14
The unfortunate reality is if England votes Leave geardaddy Jun 2016 #17
Not to mention screwing over Scotland, Northern Ireland, and most of England! LeftishBrit Jun 2016 #18
Yes, indeed! geardaddy Jun 2016 #19
Welsh polls are very similar to whole-of-Britain ones muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #20
Agreed. geardaddy Jun 2016 #21
Depends where the manufacturing goes T_i_B Jun 2016 #22
A friend of mine is wondering about moving north of the border muriel_volestrangler Jun 2016 #23
I think they will need a fair bit of infrastructure T_i_B Jun 2016 #24
Well, all I can say to both of you is Denzil_DC Jun 2016 #25
My liver is going to improve because of this! T_i_B Jun 2016 #28
That is what concerns me auntpurl, and the potential for xenophobia to spread still_one Jun 2016 #26
Some people always say such things in advance of an unfortunate anticipated result of an election. Just reading posts Jun 2016 #27
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