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pandr32

(13,760 posts)
36. It is more than civility and incivility
Sat Mar 26, 2016, 09:37 AM
Mar 2016

First I will admit that not every Bernie supporter has gone off the rails. There are some that admit he most likely can't win and that they will vote for Hillary in the GE in that case, but they want to ride the process to the end first. It seems, at least here in DU, though, to be the exception to have that realistic attitude, though if they were realistic I don't see how they would be with Bernie in the first place.
There are also those that intensely hate Hillary Clinton. In fact it seems to go hand in hand with being a Bernie supporter. Bernie, himself, stokes this fire because it helps separate himself out--apart from all the rest as the single, genuine article. He is the one who has been fighting the wicked establishment as a lone voice without faltering his whole career. Not only is Hillary establishment, according to Bernie, but she also takes pay for play, and she is the one responsible for starting the quagmire in the Middle East that is going to drag us into WW III if we do not change things...now.
See that? Bush and Cheney aren't the war criminals--Hillary Clinton is.
Stories that reinforce this perception are constantly swapped with other Bernie supporters. Facebook is hard to visit, even just to scan family and friend posts because--sure as sh*t--you will get a blast in the face of Hillary hate and/or something that speaks of how there will be a magical future with wonderful Bernie. He is honest--she is not. He is good--she is bad. He is real people. She is an evil conniving witch, etc. Hillary is responsible for all our problems--here and everywhere in the world.
Now Bernie is going ahead with his lawsuit against the DNC. The DNC is evil, too. Bernie supporters intensely hate the DNC. So what if the DNC uses their money to support other Dems. The ones that will not switch to support Bernie are in the tank with evil Hillary and the evil DNC.
On and on.
Sanders is programming his supporters, not wooing them. Those big rallies? Along with the elevated and intoxicating excitement that comes from the huge crowds themselves is Bernie unchecked--spewing the same message over and over and over. Only Bernie cares about you! This is group brainwashing like in a cult (think Moonies and dancing with rattle snakes while speaking in tongues). It is reinforced in the media through the wide presence of Bernie supporters and paid trolls who make their presence known under every left-tinged political article in the comments--denouncing whatever was said against their "cause' or "revolution" and reinforcing the group think. Look at our own DU to see how it works here.
Sigh.

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And, this attitude we see here is evidently similar OUT THERE! Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #1
I think I've moved a bit right Treant Mar 2016 #2
I was leaning for Bernie now im not so sure MattP Mar 2016 #3
I'm sorry that happened to you. KitSileya Mar 2016 #38
K&R TheDormouse Mar 2016 #4
I disagree. That's been tried time-and-time again with them. Stand and Fight Mar 2016 #5
I remain a Liberal Democrat man of few w Mar 2016 #16
Holding steady and being rational is NOT "being pushed to the right." Hekate Mar 2016 #6
Thank you. Stand and Fight Mar 2016 #7
Democrats usually try to bring people into agreement SharonClark Mar 2016 #17
Agreed on all points. n/t Stand and Fight Mar 2016 #20
I believe in HRC!! Her Sister Mar 2016 #8
Great post romana Mar 2016 #9
In 2008 I voted for HRC from overseas! Her Sister Mar 2016 #10
I agree totally with this post... samrock Mar 2016 #11
I'm still quite solidly to the left Lucinda Mar 2016 #12
perfectly stated! Her Sister Mar 2016 #18
Many of us want to get to the same destination. The debate is what path we take. Kaleva Mar 2016 #13
So many thoughtful posts here. LisaM Mar 2016 #14
At this point in the game, the Followers or Bernie aren't pushing.... Walk away Mar 2016 #15
I've not moved kjones Mar 2016 #19
It is hard for me to talk to Coolest Ranger Mar 2016 #21
My sister a Republican will be voting for HRC Her Sister Mar 2016 #22
Bernie or bust people must have nothing at stake Politicub Mar 2016 #24
The AA forum has been accused of all kinds of stuff by these people, and this is even AFTER Number23 Mar 2016 #42
I woke up this morning to an email saying one of my posts was hidden Politicub Mar 2016 #23
LOL! Cha Mar 2016 #25
Yes I agree with Cha Coolest Ranger Mar 2016 #26
How do you alert on a jury? Politicub Mar 2016 #32
In your e-mail Coolest Ranger Mar 2016 #35
Actually many are pushing riversedge Mar 2016 #27
Saint Birdie Sanders Koinos Mar 2016 #31
people get overheated creon Mar 2016 #28
It's not free stuff. raging moderate Mar 2016 #29
Paragraph breaks will make your copy more legible Politicub Mar 2016 #33
I guess I have read too much from Adam Smith. Or John Stuart Mill. raging moderate Mar 2016 #39
Actually there are a number of very valid communication techniques to handle this ismnotwasm Mar 2016 #30
Many Sanders supporters wouldn't make very good salesmen. Koinos Mar 2016 #34
It is more than civility and incivility pandr32 Mar 2016 #36
Not hard to believe. Once Bernie claimed the ideological purity ground. Buzz cook Mar 2016 #37
The moment BS claimed the purity ground Her Sister Mar 2016 #40
I've lurched a little right (in execution)... SaschaHM Mar 2016 #41
I'm for Sanders for president. Eko Mar 2016 #43
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